Shipping illegal immigrants to "Sanctury cities" and other left wing elitest havens? Yes or no?

Nothing wrong with that, if the immigrants were being shipped evenly to every city in the U.S. sending them to Martha's vineyard specifically, but not to Boise, Idaho is being choosy and with the intent to punish (not spread the problem evenly everywhere).

 

So then Martha's Vineyard should be welcoming them in then is what you're saying, since they have zero immigrants living there.

 

No, they do not WANT them. They WANT to be humane and trying to help them as this is a problem that was NOT created by the Blue States but a problem that exists everywhere in the world and it is a problem that has no humane solution. People are fleeing their countries because living conditions in the world are deteriorating everywhere. Are you saying that the states that are being humane should be punished for being humane? Do you support inhumanity?

 

How can they help them if they don't want them.

The humane ones are the ones forcing someone else to deal with the issue?

lol.

Conservatives will now start being humane and sending them to great places to live, like Martha's Vineyard.

We will now pat ourselves on the back for being humane.

 

Welcoming them is the wrong word. Immigration is not an event that is welcome anywhere. What it is, is a problem that the entire world is facing and everyone should take some of the brunt of it and be involved (spread the negatives across the nation), not just Martha's Vineyard.

 

So you'd like to be humane by having them somewhere else and having other people take care of them.

We're trying to be humane as well here.

What "brunt" of the problem does Martha's Vineyard have?

Are you saying 50 people is too much for them?

 

Are you using your common sense or being blind-by-choice?

I have not heard of any city state that they "do not want to help with the problem". Blue states are committed to helping. It is like "who wants to pay taxes.........no one does. Nonetheless we all pay them because it is a benefit to the nation". It seems the Right is sending their additional (above the normal) tax bills to the blue states (no red states involved) so their friends (red states) do not have to share the load.........

 

Of course I'm using common sense.

I see 50 people taken to a place, and I see that place send them away despite having a huge amount of resources on hand to care for them.

Not getting into red/state blue state but you're welcome to start a thread on that, where we can discuss SALT and cost of living adjustments to wreck that.

 

I am not going to excuse or defend the reaction of any one place or State. You find bad people everywhere and with Martha's Vineyard being a rich man's area, it is not necessarily the left that is complaining about it but specifically the RICH complaining about it. As such, you cannot blame the left for the reaction seen there.

Then again, of those 50 people sent there, why didn't DeSantis send 1 immigrant to every state in the U.S.? Why did DeSantis specifically choose Martha's Vineyard sent all those immigrants there? Why did he specifically chose one location for all 50?

 

I already stated that it was not the Left that sent them away but likely the Rich at Martha's Vineyard that sent them away. I am sure some of those rich are not even political. They just care about themselves and do not want their own neighborhoods affected by poor immigrants. How come you do not blame the rich but do blame the left?

 

Sure, except that Martha's Vineyard voted for Biden at 80% of the population.

How would they affect the neighborhood? I thought immigrants committed less crime than citizens?

I'm blaming the people of Martha's Vineyard that are clearly mostly rich democrats that clearly don't want these 50 people filling their 6550 job vacancies.

The question is why are you trying to distance them from the argument and generalize?

 

What are you thinking? Do you not have some common sense?

The rich set the rules wherever they live. This in Martha's Vineyard was not about politics, it was about rich people not wanting poor people being sent to their community. You want to do something about it? Well then, get more money that the rich have in that community and pay off the judges and the government officials to do your bidding.

Where the rich are involved you can be assured that it is mostly about money and not about politics. The rich do not normally care for the poor (with only a few exceptions) and that is the same for both parties.

I am not going to respond to any more posts about Martha's Vineyard as this is a political thread and this event has nothing to do with Democrats or Republicans. It is all about the rich and the poor and I have to tell you that in the U.S. there are more rich Republicans than rich Democrats.

Of the top 10 richest people by party affiliation, 8 are Republican, 1 is Democrat and 1 is both. Of the top 50 rich families by party affiliation, 56% are Republicans, 14% are Democrats and 30% are both (click on link to see data).

 

It doesn't punish anyone. Its a political stunt, and an incredibly childish one.

Its the height of irony that DeSantis pays (uses Florida taxpayer money to pay) to transport them to a place which is almost guaranteed to approve their asylum applications, and then they can legally come back to Florida and stay for life.

 

It was so chidish that Marthas Vineyard shipped them off to Cape Cod. Those people know how to give "White Privledge" a bad name. It's like you all ain't swimming in our pools. Barack and Michelle worked too hard for a group of wanna be's to muscle in on their turf. Tokenism counts for something in America. ..... and now we can switch to Cape Cod for a latest update on the rising crime rate.

 

Cape Cod is overwhelmingly white, like 90% They’re not poor or conservative. I wonder how long it will take to move them out of their community.

 

Yes it is. The idea is to give the childish immature supporters of illegal immigration a little dose of their own medicine.
Especially "Limousine Liberals" who have no concern about all the crime migrants bring because they live in nice neighborhoods in an island away from all the immediate problems.

Conservatives used to have principles and be above doing this sort of thing but recent politicians like Trump, DeSantis, and Abbott - governor of Texas - are fighting fire with fire and adopting the same sort of dirty less-than-honorable tactics used by their progressive opponents. (You might remember when progressives were encouraging those migrant caravans to overwhelm the border and all the holding facilities, even sending out pamphlets to Mexico with false promises; or how migrants were being bused into Republican states)

 

Simple solution to a simple problem. Cape Cod is about 10 miles away, and they have suitable facilities. Massachusetts will rubber stamp their asylum applications, and then they can move and work anywhere in US, including Florida and Texas.

They still do. Its pseudo-con populists like DeSantis and Abbott who never had any.

Martha's Vinyard is tiny, about half the population of Key West so it makes sense they'd sent them across the bay to Cape Code, which has needed facilities. The two places are pretty much part of the same community,

 

Do you have any opinion on the Biden administration busing them around the nation to random areas at random times with no notice or plans?

 

In complete fairness, the Biden Administration was using federal money to pay for motel rooms for them, so it was not entirely the same.

But if you look at how Progressive organizations were luring migrants in with misleading promises, knowing the migrants would be subject to much less than ideal conditions in overcrowded holding facilities, in an attempt to make Trump look bad with media coverage and to try to cause an overflow and begin to require migrants to be released into the interior of the country, I think there is more of a parallel there.

 

Just remember that when you say Federal money it means we the American people's money. The government can best be thought of as a parasite. And it is certainly not one of a symbiotic relationship.

 

MV entertains 200,000 visitors a year. They don't send any of them to Cape Cod.

 

Yet if MV have to care for them Florida saves a fortune! This makes complete economic sense.

 

no,it is Joe Brandon's fault

 

That is always what the right does. Throw blame around but never look to their own mistakes.

 

Why? They’re helping the immigrants and from what I can tell they’re not handcuffed to the busses or planes so it seems they are going on their free will. In fact I would be willing to bet they are grateful for the free ride to people who will love and adore them.