Would you rather have a weak elected leader, or strong unelected leader?

Would you rather have a weak elected leader, or strong unelected leader?

 

Way too vague to answer. How about a strong leader with minimal power?

 

It was meant to be vague.

 

How do you define strong and weak?

I would rather have an honest leader than anything in that poll.

 

I would rather have a strong elected leader (Trump) than a weak selected puppet (Biden).

 

Nobody wants to answer the questions as posed. frankly I think they are perfect the way they are written. That's actually the uncomfortable choice we have to confront now. The conundrum is that we are desperately needing to know if the unelected but strong leader favors our politics and if the elected but weak leader favors theirs before we answer the poll.

You are asking our politics, but we can't ask the hypothetical leader theirs.

 

How was he "strong"? By trying to cajole Zelensky to illegally help him against Biden? By weakening and attacking NATO? By being a self-dealing and incompetent "Presuhdint"?

 

We elect our leaders based on what the corrupt owners of our information pipeline tells us about them.
We are a “Netocracy”.

Trump caused the crazy expose themselves for the moon-howlers they really are. Prior to Trump, the republicans ignored them: Turned the other cheek so to speak. Trump showed them how to grow a spine.

 

We elect our leaders here, so there’s no such thing as an unelected strong leader. I’ll hedge that. I’ll admit Trump has been a strong leader of the Republican Party since his loss of the presidency. I don’t think he was elected to that position, more as being anointed. It’s Trump and his antics, endorsements, choices in the GOP primaries, his obnoxious, uncouth, rude persona along with the many other baggage he carries that has changed the scope of this year’s midterms from a red wave election to a red trickle. If the trend continues in the Democrats favor over the last 2 months, that red wave may become a red dam. According to Gallup, the Republican Party, it’s base now make up 27% of the electorate. This is what Trump is a strong unelected leader of.

I don’t think Biden is a strong leader. He’s being used more as a pawn by the progressive wing. Until Biden became president, he was a moderate Democrat both as a senator and as VP which is what America voted for. Not a pawn for the progressives. A lot of do wish Biden was a stronger elected leader to continue his moderate polices instead of kowtowing to the progressives. But it is what it is. The bottom line is I’m much happier having a pawn of the progressives than having Trump as president.

 

What suggests to you that he's a "pawn for the progressives"?

As an aside, almost the entire GOP is in thrall to the extremist kooks attaching themselves to the party.

 

Neither. The worst of both spectrum ends.... Why not demand capable leaders who can be elected? What we're seeing now are authoritarians in unelected positions of power within the bureaucracy. Bad meets worse, Joe Biden, who is feckless and elected, and weak. Clearly he isn't running the asylum. As a model, this doesn't actually inspire anyone with confidence...

 

I agree both options suck. But if you had to pick one, which would it be?

 

I agree. Its subjective. Trump was considered a "Strong" leader. As is Putin ( thought for how long who knows as he continues to get his ass kicked in ukraine )

 

yea, i've never heard a person i consider strong that had to say how strong they were.

Others will look up to people who talk about how tough they are.

The poll is useless.

 

Elected. I'd prefer a bad elected option that can be corrected in the next election than abandon democratic elections entirely for a dictatorial cult figurehead.

 

It depends on the situation. If you get a good person as dictator, they can have a better government than an elected democracy, but if you get a bad person as dictator, things could end up much worse than under an elected democracy. And you can't always predict what a leader will actually do before they take power.

Sometimes good people with good intentions can be completely wrong about their beliefs, or stupid and incapable.
Sometimes people can have correct political beliefs about how things work, and be very intelligent and capable, but be evil and have evil intentions, maybe not actually caring about the people they are ruling over.

Even if you get a good dictator, the question has to be asked what will happen to the country after they die and are gone. Are the people who have been installed in power going to spin the roulette wheel and hopefully get another dictator who is good?

In some situations democracies are not even stable, and some political factions want to preemptively install a dictator before the democracy collapses.
In those cases it might not be a simple matter of the majority being able to correct the mistake in the next election.

Or in some cases one political side might want to implement policies that are irreversible (or very difficult to reverse). This could include things like redistribution of property, confiscation of weapons and political power from certain groups, policies that would dramatically shift political power, large movements of people, sometimes even involvement in wars.

 

Strong, unelected leader

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So fascism. Got it. At least you are willing to go on record.

 

None of the above. I'd rather have a strong elected leader.

Like Trump.

 

So you mean not elected by the people then seeing that trump has never been voted for by the people and Biden has.

So you prefer an unelected fascist over an elected old man that should have retired several years ago?

Thanks for your honesty

 

"We need a strong man to lead us" is how you get the caudillismo of Latin America. We are lost if that ever gets in here.

It should be noted that "weak and old" Biden has just recently been DOING things that young and strong pols of all stripes have been just talking about for decades.

 

Name one.

 

Can any of you help me understand why anybody on this planet thinks Trump is "strong"? He's a spineless coward afraid of his own shadow.

 

https://joebiden.com/accomplishments/#


Now watch, a whole bunch of posts saying that inflation and high drug costs are GOOD for us.

 

He encourages his followers to beat people up.