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Ukraine referendum

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by UntilNextTime, Sep 23, 2022.

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Well, if you look at all the previous leaders prior to Gorbachov, they were all a bag of 1" inch dildos. Putin on the other hand after receiving the baton, turned Russia around and pulled it further out of the Soviet Union sh!t-tank. So the majority of the people respect and trust Putin. That is my opinion with some facts.
     
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    UntilNextTime, Sep 26, 2022
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    In other words its less than nothing.
     
    Dayton3, Sep 26, 2022
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    They are not Russian as per the ENGLISH in the memoradum, they were regions declared Ukranian and as such any referendum is illigitmate. And further more the second part I quoted also quoted had the Russian federation promising to respect the POLITCAL INDEPENDANCE of the Ukranian government. In ENGLISH terms that means that it doesn't matter who or how someone gets elected to rule Ukraine.

    In short, Russia has absolutley no buisness even having 1 damn soldier inside of Ukraines borders, let along holding shame referendums because it feels that the population is Russian. Doesn't matter if they are from Marz. They signed an agreement promising to not do SPECIFICALLY what they are doing right now.

    Got anything else or are we done here?
     
    ToughTalk, Sep 26, 2022
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    UntilNextTime, Sep 26, 2022
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I've got plenty of time and patience, which is more than I can say for you.

    The history of Ukraine as an artificial state

    Learn some.
     
    UntilNextTime, Sep 26, 2022
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    Dayton3, Sep 26, 2022
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Who gives a fck. If I gave you Russian sources, you'd say it's Russian propaganda or coerced and biased, hey? Take it or leave it.
     
    UntilNextTime, Sep 26, 2022
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    Dayton3 Well-Known Member

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    Will you accept any source that is critical of Russia?
     
    Dayton3, Sep 26, 2022
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    And no one is critical of NATO, CIA, the Deep State, IMF, WEF, the Davos group, hey? They are the ones pulling the strings, yet many would point the finger at Putin because that's easier to work out because you and others get their perspectives given to you by the latter via MSM. Wouldn't want to put that into the equation now, would we? Things would be viewed much differently, hey?
     
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    If you actually believe it’s a real referendum you don’t understand Russian tactics. Do you really believe the guy that locks up his political opponents really cares about public opinion? That’s a joke.

    Russia first obtained Ukraine through conquest, they then starved them to death under Stalin, they then freed themselves and now they are seeking to obtain it through conquest again. All while raping and murdering their way in.
     
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    What makes you so certain I get my news from the "main stream media"? Are you seriously suggesting it is impossible to view the Russians negatively?
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    As opposed to those in the west who expose pedo rings and conspiracies, just get 'offed'. You might need to have a look at Ukraine's own dark recent history.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    A general term, not just specific to you.

    Did I say you can't? MSM is biased and scripted as all fck. It only puts one of the players in a good light. MSM never tells the whole story, so how can anyone
    who watches it, make an informed perspective?
     
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    and just where do you get your news?
     
    Dayton3, Sep 26, 2022
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    I get from everywhere but MSM. I'll see the headline, if it's worth looking into, I look for it anywhere and compare the two articles. I find MSM never tells the full story. As I said, I look for more information from a variety of sources to build my own perspective, rather than base my base it on one source that tells you fck all of any given narrative. You know, the critical thinking part in most of us. Not just here you go, here is the narrative we want you to chow down on. I like to look at the menu before choose what to eat.
     
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    Question 1 - do you believe the Mongols should get back their land in China, Russia and half of Europe?
    Question 2 - what are your thoughts on the legal notion that we don't change borders anymore?
    Question 3 - do you think the West will continue with sanctions if your Putin mate consolidates his grip on Eastern Ukraine?
    Question 4 - can you envisage what Western sanctions five years from now will look like, given there's no planes, cell phones, bearings, mining equipment etc..?
     
    Poohbear, Sep 26, 2022
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    Here learn something.....





     
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    Your opinion??...what facts ....cite them?
     
    zoom_copter66, Sep 26, 2022
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    Question #4=.....sanctions are in place for 2+ decades....they are meant to destroy and fragment Russia.
     
    zoom_copter66, Sep 26, 2022
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    No, I copied and pasted English to Russian. I did not type it. Sorry, no prize, again!
     
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    Already have NN.:rolleyes:
     
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    The referendum will not be seen as legitimate.
     
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    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Tell me then, what did Lenin give away, a meat tray? Russian land that had Russians living on it. Did those people back then or any other globally have a say in it? No.
     
    UntilNextTime, Sep 26, 2022
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    What makes you think the rest of us don't do something similar?
     
    Dayton3, Sep 26, 2022
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    Have an internationally supervised referendum.
     
    LangleyMan, Sep 26, 2022
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