Florida senators ask for more federal relief funds

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  1. Gateman_Wen

    Gateman_Wen Well-Known Member

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    Your news is lying to you.

    The vote was in relation to 2023 appropriations, which only a small portion addresses disaster relief.


    Summary: H.R.6833 — 117th Congress (2021-2022)
    Shown Here:
    Passed House (03/31/2022)

    Affordable Insulin Now Act

    This bill limits cost-sharing for insulin under private health insurance and the Medicare prescription drug benefit.

    Specifically, the bill caps cost-sharing under private health insurance for a month's supply of selected insulin products at $35 or 25% of a plan's negotiated price (after any price concessions), whichever is less, beginning in 2023.

    The bill caps cost-sharing under the Medicare prescription drug benefit for a month's supply of covered insulin products at $35 beginning in 2023.

    Currently, the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services is testing a voluntary model under the Medicare prescription drug benefit (the Part D Senior Savings Model) in which the copayment for a month's supply of insulin is capped at $35 through participating plans. The model is set to expire on December 31, 2025.

    The bill also (1) further delays implementation of regulations relating to the treatment of certain Medicare prescription drug benefit rebates from drug manufacturers for purposes of federal anti-kickback laws, and (2) increases funding for the Medicare Improvement Fund.

    https://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_votes/vote1172/vote_117_2_00351.htm



    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/n...money-rebuild-state-hurricane-ian/8138004001/




    Stop letting your biased news sources make you look silly.
     
  3. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If Ukraine can get tens of billions, Florida can get a few crumbs.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That bill contained provisions for disaster relief as well — imagine thinking you are on the right side by saying they didn’t vote against disaster relief what they really voted against was only the making insulin affordable part!

    How disturbing
     
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    So you think everyone should pay more for their insulin because the bill has some benefit for disaster relief?
    Yeah, Piss on those who can't afford their insulin. Right?
     
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    How is making insulin affordable pissing on people who can't afford insulin?

    Of course, insulin is pork! Funny how Rubio keeps using the idea that Sandy relief contained pork because it included a provision to repair of museum in D.C. and neglects that Sandy affected the D.C. area.
     
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    Nobody is lying. They voted against hurricane relief money when they voted against that bill.
     
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    Hypocrisy is in politicians DNA.

    In the end Florida got their money as did Sandy areas.


    NO INSULIN FOR YOU!!

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  9. jcarlilesiu

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    Oh, so now we are going to move the goal posts?
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That's silly partisan theater.

    Stop gobbling it up.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I have no clue how you took this from my post — but that is typical I guess.
     
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    No — them being pieces of **** remains firmly planted in the ground. I couldn’t move that with largest excavator known to man.

    You are the one screaming it’s different because they voted against an insulin package that contained disaster preparedness provisions and not a stand alone disaster bill — that’s squarely on you.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The problem is, our appropriation bills lump a huge group of items together knowing individual items in the bill invoke different support.

    That's done intentionally so any opposition is falsely accused of not supporting "X". It's a game.

    And you lap it up when it serves your partisan agenda.

    Do better.
     
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    They voted against it because of the insulin. Republicans live in several states that are frequently impacted by natural disasters so of course they want that free socialism as their states are also welfare states — what they don’t want is to benefit anyone else.

    I would tell you to — as you put it “do better” — but I try not to ask people to accomplish the unachievable. Back to my original point, imagine thinking you are on the right side of this.
     
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    So you don't know the bill limits cost-sharing for insulin under private health insurance and the Medicare prescription drug benefit but if it provides more disaster relief then it must be passed at all cost.
    Thanks for making my point.
     
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    Privatize the gains, socialize the losses, that's how modern GOP-backed "capitalism" works. Florida will be dependent on federal money very soon, once all private home owners' and flood insurers leave the state. It's only a matter of time.
     
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    You have the right to act like you have no clue, but you know better.
    The information on what expenditures was provided in the Sandy Relief package to you in your own thread and here you are knowingly falsifying information about it? Didn't really expect anything different.
    Pretty much like you wouldn't know whats in the bill being discussed here.
     
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    We are already in an insurance crises in FL, and this will be the last drop. Florida law allows insurance companies to collect money from other policy holders to pay for claims, so we expect a 40% hike in premiums, and for many who have been forced to take Citizens, it can mean several thousand dollar increase. Also, housing prices are expected to plummet. No worries, I am sure FL politicians will find someone to blame while they go back to focusing on culture wars.
     
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    What pork was in the Sandy bill? It seems people were confused because they didn't know DC was also affected by Sandy. Guess the lame stream media left that out.
     
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    The home owners insurance issue is going to hit FL very soon and very hard. I doubt DeSantis will try to nip this in the bud, but that problem is not going away for them.
     
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    So now you're going to pretend this post (made to you in your own thread) doesn't exist?
    Best of luck with that idea. lol
     
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    Do you think it's a possibility that federal funds will be used to pay for claims? I remember in Texas federal money had to be used to pay for exorbitant electric bills during their winter storm.
     
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    I doubt it. Florida law allows them to collect it from other policy holders by hiking the rates, and they are talking about 40% hike in premiums.
     
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    FL can certainly ask for federal help, if and how much is open, and whether they receive what they ask is another.
     
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    Should that route be applied, it will negatively affect those that have their premiums increased. Imagine their blame game from there.
     
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