Average American is losing $34K and everything else on Biden’s watch

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  1. Vote4Future

    Vote4Future Well-Known Member

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    Based alone on the last 21-months where Democrats entire focus has been on Donald Trump and not the nation that elected them.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Let me take the talking point one by one
    Oil / gas: The largest contributor to this was the OPEC cuts led by trump prior to him exiting. I agree we need to drill more to offset those losses but SA seems to be playing to get Republicans back in office (wonder why)

    Inflation: Causes by global supply chain issues and shutdowns under COVID. Inflation is already starting to slow down after major steps by the FED

    Afghanistan: Absolutely a disaster but who could expect anything different when the president has held secret meetings with a terrorist group and excluded the government we have set up over 10 years and trillions of dollars. I am simply thankful he ended the ten year war, something his predecessor failed to do

    Baby food shortages: primarily due to a failure of inspections (guess what party keeps defunding the inspectors) followed by not being able to easily import replacement amounts due to poorly thought out trade policies enacted by trump and FDA guidance.

    Border: has been an issue for generations, I completely agree he has failed here

    20% accuracy. Not bad :trophy:
     
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  3. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You neglected to factor in the cost of living. Common mistake. California leads the nation in poverty.

    True, crime is everywhere. Dem controlled cities may be a little worse.

    Poor performing schools are everywhere. CA just makes it more expensive.

    Our crumbling roads were neglected all the years they have been collecting taxes, so they added 3 more taxes and the roads are still crumbling. They did add some new roads to ease congestion, but those paying all these taxes are not permitted to drive on them unless they pay a toll. (We call them Lexus Lanes)

    Can you show a source showing that our homeless migrated from other states? If you can, our climate may be a factor.

    These problems were once part of the dems sales pitch. They made the sale, got paid, have abundant resources (As you were nice enough to point out) and results show a huge difference between the product and the sales pitch.

    I am not here to defend the red states or their party. They are awful. Dems are just a little worse.
     
  4. hawgsalot

    hawgsalot Well-Known Member

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    OPEC cuts that were made in March of 2020, somehow caused gas prices to increase in 2022 , come on man. Biden can release millions of barrels a month and he then claims he lowered prices in a month. We've heard it all from the left; It's Putin, it's Trump, it's Opec! Bottom line the smart people on the left are already campaigning on opening more drilling to create more supply again in America. Does OPEC control the natural gas pricing too? I don't know anyone against green energy as it becomes reliable, forcing it at such a high cost is killing this economy and the world economy for no reason. Everyone is searching for the next billion dollar company that produces renewables but you can't force this down free people's throats and have f'ing politicians forcing energy prices up to the point of collapse.

    Please secret meetings with Afghanistan, good god don't be brainwashed. The reality is Biden made the call and you saw people holding on to f'ing C31's begging for their life, falling to their deaths and Biden claiming success. You saw the Taliban not kill a single American in 2 years then took over the country in 2 days. You saw Biden having to send troops back in after his proclaimed victory of leaving to save our citizens at the embassy and throughout Afghanistan and this resulted in hundreds killed and 16 of our soldiers losing their life. It's on Biden own it! If, ands, and buts don't cut it with the families that lost lives. I'm sick of hearing this was a success, and the failure was on someone else.

    Baby food shortage caused by an administration that shut down operations of a plant and didn't think at the time of global shortage, they might want to look into other resources, so shelves stayed full. Communication 101 failure.

    Border been an issue for years for sure and glad you agree. The last two years have set records in crossings, deaths crossing, get a ways, and releases into our country. Throw the fentanyl deaths killing American's, most being children, at a 100k plus per year rate and it's more than a f'ing issue in 2022. It's a complete and utter disaster and you've got lefties on here cheering the open border (not you).
     
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    OPEC is absolutely to blame for the vast majority. The US could have blunted it a bit but not significant according to the many sources I have read as we would not have had operational capability within the 2-3 year mark we needed it. As demand increased after COVID calmed down the supply wasn’t there, look how prices decreased when OPEC when back to the supply they had in 2019 and where it has gone now that they are cutting supply again right before the US elections — strange don’t ya think?

    Again, I am glad Biden ended the war. Anyone that believed that vacuum wouldn’t be filled is a fool.
     
  6. hawgsalot

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    Sorry your just wrong on this. Let's look at the numbers, the world produces around 100m barrels a day on average. The world uses around 99m barrels of oil a day. The market can change almost instantly, it's the reason when a hurricane hits in the gulf you can expect gas to rise in a few days, not a year later lol. It's also why if Biden would have simply said he's opening up leases and permits the market would drop almost immediately.
     
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    I'll live with it.
     
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    No, they proved that more things can be done at once.
     
  9. Bullseye

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    It is. At least for a few more days.
     
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    Yeah, you've tried (and failed) with that argument before.
    Don't trip backpeddling like that
    Watch out behind you
    Another rationalization...3 in a row, well done.
    Nope, most have lived in the state for over 10 yrs. There aren't enough shelters in California.You win that one
    Compared to where. That's politics, sad to say
    Hardly, the quality of life in California is far higher than (I believe) any red state.
     
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    Lol.. Biden ended no war. If you are gonna credit him, blame him for the FUBAR withdrawal. He should have listened to the general Austin and other advisors. But oh no, geriatric Joe gotta show the world he's better than Trump when Biden is the main figure who got US in both wars.
     
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    Correct.

    Record inflation
    Record homelessness
    Record crime rate
    Racial relations lower than Jim Crow era
    Record number of people who can no longer afford a home

    Democrats are sure good at multitasking. Lol
     
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    All those things are the highest in red states. Keep up
     
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  14. cd8ed

    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You are free to your opinion but the graphs I can find do not mesh with it
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    You haven't seen the cost if living in CA, right?
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I am tired of entertaining you asserting your opinion as fact

    Source who ordered the withdrawal
    Source Biden being the primary cause of any two wars
     
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    Are you saying Biden voted against the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan? This is common knowledge. He was a powerful ranking member in the Senate.
     
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    cd8ed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I asked you for two sources
    Feel free to provide them — or don’t.
     
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    Irrational thinker Well-Known Member

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    There are search engines out there and everyone no matter how sugarcoat left leaning will say Biden supported both wars. He was the one who called for the partition of Iraq into three states.
     
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    How far did 401K fall in the recession of 2000 and 2008 and 2020.
    The stock market never goes straight up
     
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    DC never determines who sits in the WH.

    Although, the WH tried to determine that in 2020
     
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    Uh huh.

    http://politicalforum.com/index.php?posts/1073133480/
     
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    James California Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    ~ This alone is reason enough to put Donald J Trump back in the driver's seat ... :wink:
    ~ Fake news :rip:
     
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    Everyone will end up in poverty and on welfare. In my readings of conspiracy theories, I found that it is already projected that in the future, humans will have a negative net value. It's nothing new. That's one of the reasons for the population control agenda.

    So, what is a negative value other than we cost more to keep alive than we earn from work?

    The welfare state is just as much about keeping wages low for businesses as it is about freeloading off the system. The pro-business, corporate welfare state is part of the problem and politicians need to confront this reality to fix the economy. Otherwise, we face poverty and the Republicans aren't helping anything because they are helping to harm Americans and make the costs of living become unaffordable to the majority of the population.
     
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    :roflol:, sure did.
    Its working out for ME personally, swimmingly...Unfortunately, I have this thing called empathy, so would like to address why you cant prosper in an economy, where jobs are overpaying...Haven't learned to pass your inflation costs to your employer yet or something?
     

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