Alec Balwin Sues Movie Crewmembers to Deflect Blame for Cinematographer’s Shooting Death

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  1. Steve N

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    What you're seeing in this thread is a death by gun violence that's not being blamed on the 2A, NRA, conservatives, political leanings, skin color, or any of the other stuff the left blames gun deaths on. Instead, what you're seeing is Hollywood making a movie that glorifies deaths that result from gun violence but it's not their fault.
     
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    No! That's ANYONE that picks up or IS HANDED a firearm! No wonder the DNC wants to reduce firearm ownership! Clearly people are simply to stupid to FOLLOW RULES and use common sense ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    It's really shocking that lefties think there's a plausible scenario in which you can have a gun in your hand and it not be your responsibility to check to see if it's loaded. And sadly, multiple people have taken that position in this thread.
     
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    Their used to BLAMING everyone else for their own lack of understanding and ignorance..
     
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    ALWAYS!
     
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    I agree. Why are they even using a prop that is capable of firing a live round in 2021???
     
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    They were using real firearms on the set of Gunsmoke as early as the 1950s. the difference is how they shot the shooting scenes and how they edited back in those days. They never shot the scene depicting the actual gunfight. Just the shooting at a low angle with either a dummy or a stuntman in the scene that looked liked the other actors. Even in the movie A Fistful of Dollars had real firearms on the set. No fakes. The only fake firearms that are ever used are the sci-fi movies such as phasers, for instance.

    As I said, on the set of the Movie Crow, Brandon Lee, son of Bruce Lee, dies from a gunshot wound. And that was in the 1990s. It happens, but it is rare.

    https://roanoke.com/z-no-digital/a-...cle_e0b4e953-1fad-5815-ac8c-6bc29c4eec68.html

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/22/business/prop-guns-baldwin-shooting.html
     
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    So, how do you explain Brandon Lee who was shot by a gun while filming the movie Crow?
     
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    Common sense rules of handling a firearm haven't changes since 1950 either :)

    Do try again ;)
     
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    Same scenario, obvious gun safety rules not followed ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Morons with guns :)
     
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    And yet there have been accidents and even a few deaths during that time too. Yet, no charges.

    Anytime someone handles a firearm, mistakes may happen, even on movie or tv sets. There is no 100% guarantee that none of that will happen.
     
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    And the more important thing is that no one was arrested either.
     
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    It's kind of impressive, actually - lefties blaming everyone except the guy who pulled the trigger and killed someone. But she was only a cinematographer, whatevs.
     
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    Well, I guess in your world gun deaths that don't end in arrest are NO-FAULTs :)

    Interesting ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Thats been the moronic approach for a century :)
     
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    Not everything is a crime. My position is that just like all the other accidents, there is no criminal culpability. You guys are trying to make Alec Baldwin criminally culpable even though that has not been the case in every firearm accident that has happened on the set. And there are quite a few of them.

    Alec Baldwin's lawsuit is not going anywhere and neither is the injured party's lawsuit. I do think it will be settled out of court, with an undisclosed sum of money and no one admitting anything. The reason, too many people are culpable, and too difficult to assign blame legally. Look we have 500 accidental deaths a year, mostly done by children handling the firearm. And yet, parents are not arrested, are they?
     
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    oh ffs, could you be any more obtuse. I wonder how often in the tens of thousands of gun fight scenes filmed that the actor actually checked the weapon for live rounds. I'm not saying he isn't legally liable but the worst mistake in this tragic chain was not not checking the magazine. And I hate Baldwin ftr.
     
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    We have 500 or so annually of accidental deaths by firearms. This is mostly done by kids and not even the parents were arrested for child endangerment or negligence on their part. This is the reality here Butterballs. Nothing more, nothing less. The ONLY reason why you are doing this is that Alec Baldwin is a liberal and you want him punished because he is a liberal, not the facts of the case.

    Again, no one was arrested in the Brandon Lee incident and no one was arrested in countless others in the past. That is just a fact and is incontrovertible.
     
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    that is because they gave the firearm to the kid. That is why. Different set of facts, but a good defense attorney in Texas, along with NRA support, will probably get them acquitted on the charges anyway.
     
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    Again, not following the rules :) How do guns kill if they are unloaded locked away "Trigger locked" or put up where can't be got.. How about if the stupid parent were to have them educated in an online gun course and the list go on and on..

    Excuses are like ********s everyone got one!

    So here are a few hundred VIDEOssssssssssssssssss to help the ignorant understand gun safety..
    Free Online Firearms Training - Episode 1 - Firearm Safety - Bing video
     
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    Notice how you used the word "kill" here. Firearms can "kill" someone without firing a shot. They can be used as a club or have a pointy thing called a bayonet on the end of the rifle. But that can still "kill" a person, can they? The point is a rifle can kill even without firing a bullet. But that should not be the question, should it? So what is the right question?

    The right question is whether it meets the standards of negligent homicide under state law. Even the Arizona sheriff's office who investigated the accident said there was not enough evidence to make such a charge. So, it is going civil with all parties suing each other. And that is part of our litigious society, is it not? And here is food for thought. If someone is on your property, skips and falls, they can and may sue you. Now, whether or not they are successful depends on the facts of that case, but they can still sue you for pain and suffering because of your "negligence."

    The point is that you are trying to say that things should always be perfect when it comes to firearms, motor vehicles, or any other tool out there, and it does not. Mistakes can happen. but not all mistakes have culpability, especially with firearms given the gun politics of today. Yes, trying to make kids safe is a priority, but even kids can get around gun locks and gun safes, can they? And with firearms on Tv and Movie Sets, it does happen and in all the history of the limited mistakes out there on TV and movie sets, no one has been arrested. It has nothing to do with whether one is "left" or "right," it has to do with the facts of the case and your is sorely lacking in all legal aspects.
     
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    Kindly cite where anyone here has stated, suggested, or implied that everything "should always be perfect when it comes to firearms..."

    Your ignorant assertion that parents aren't arrested when their kids are involved in accidental shootings has been exposed. Now you're just making sh!t up. Don't put words in other people's mouths, and don't presume to speak for anyone but yourself.
     
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    Your posts are nothing more than an act of futility :) they are just off the wall excuses to justify ignorance of some VERY BASIC rules that everyone handling a firearm should know..

    Justification of stupidity is the issue on display here :) I'd like to continue this exercise in futility, but I got forty laps to swim so I'm OUT!
     
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