Jury begins deliberating in Oath Keepers sedition trial

Well Congress can actually do things to help the economy….the DOJ can’t. So it’s not like this trial is taking time away from the fbi helping people manage inflation etc

 

I guess he wants the fbi to arrest inflation lol

 

Kabuki theater all around

what a waste of our tax dollars.

 

I don't recall you saying the Dems should not be investigating Trump during COVID and that economic collapse.

 

I have never attended a political rally because I never thought of myself as enough of a political junkie to care. I would be more inclined to attend something like a town-hall if I could ask questions.

 

Yah and I’m not saying it about Biden either. Notice the consistency?

 

I've done those also on different venues in addition to politics. Although I have the feeling that on some occasions the organizers of the events regretted giving me the mic.

 

I don't know the scope of the trial or how many charges or defendants are in this specific trial but I would think the longer the jury is out the higher likelihood of an acquittal or hung jury. Personally, it's time to send a clear message to these idiots on trial.

 

Hope you bet the longer odds, since that didn't happen...

 

The government's case for seditious conspiracy is incredibly weak, and if they're defeated here that will hopefully end the DOJ's quest to trying to use the court system to further a political narrative of 'sedition' or 'insurrection'. It was a riot, one that indeed disrupted the proceedings. Charge these people to the crimes they actually committed, not the ones the government wishes they committed.

 

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A government witness — an Oath Keeper cooperating with prosecutors in hopes of a lighter sentence — testified that there was an “implicit” agreement to stop Congress’ certification but the decision to enter the building was “spontaneous.”
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Stopping Congress from certifying the next president, leaving an uncertain Constitutional situation as to who is President, easily meets the technical definition of sedition... The conspiracy part speaks for itself.

 

Were I the defense, this is simple to be rebutted: Implied by whom? By the witness themselves? What matters, I'd say to the jury is not what the government's witness thinks or believes, but whether there was an actual conspiracy by the group. And by use of the implication argument, the government has already conceded that it has no direct evidence, and certainly not beyond a reasonable doubt.

 

Well, since neither you or I know what direct evidence was presented (besides witness testimony and defendant communications, including Tweets and encrypted texts), I guess we'll have to let the jury make that decision...

Also, see how well the "we were just letting off steam" defense worked for the Michigan kidnap plotters??

Plans were made, travel was accomplished, defendants were onsite, certification was delayed...

 

You mean the Michigan case that was confirmed to be one huge FBI stunt, hence resulting in several of the verdicts being overturned. That one?

 

No, I mean the Michigan case where a bunch of inbreds were plotting to kidnap the governor...

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"You can't just strap on an AR-15 and body armor and go snatch the governor," Assistant U.S. Attorney Nils Kessler told jurors.
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https://www.npr.org/2022/08/23/1119015754/2-guilty-gretchen-whitmer-kidnap-plot

Also, a verdict is in in the Oath keeper case. Unknown at this time, but you can go ahead and start defending their unAmerican behavior anyway...

 

Arrgggh Matey... I'm guilty of seditious conspiracy