John Bolton says he may launch presidential bid to stop Trump

I can just see Trump's ranting posts now.

He was a loser. He always wanted to go to war. I only hired him because he begged for a job.

Indeed, professional war-hawk John Bolton has said he may consider throwing his hat int eh ring for the MAGAGOP prize.

Not that he has a chance, but he seems to think that by doing so he would stop Trump from becoming president again.

Bolton seems to be taking trolling to a whole new level.

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pr...-launch-presidential-bid-stop-trump-rcna60220

“I’d like to see Shermanesque statements from all the potential candidates,” about the comments Bolton said. “If I don’t see that, I’m going to seriously consider getting in.”

Bolton called Trump’s statement “disqualifying,” and said, “I think to be a presidential candidate you can’t just say, 'I support the Constitution.' You have to say, 'I would oppose people who would undercut it.'”

Bolton served as Trump’s national security adviser from April 2018 until Sept. 2019, when Trump fired Bolton amid reports that they disagreed over talks with the Taliban and trade negotiations with China.

 

I wouldn't want his as president, but he has the right personality to humiliate Trump on the debate stage.

 

Whatever it takes, folks.. A panel consisting of Bolton and Christie should be able to keep the Mango Mussolini in check, although I still prefer T**** on the final ballot for a guaranteed win...

Bolton would certainly be able to FINALLY publicly reproach Mango for his illegal plan to withhold the military aid to Ukraine. That in itself could be somewhat watchable, even with 2 exceptionally unwatchable characters...

The enemy of my enemy is my friend... even if only temporarily...

 

Just no. We already tried that once.
Fool me once...

 

The more candidate vying for the GOP nomination in 2024 the better the chances are for Trump. Not many folks realize Trump won the GOP nomination back in 2016 in a crowded 15 or 16 candidate field with but 35% of the vote. Today, 45% of Republicans are avid Trumpers if one equates very favorable ratings to being Trumpers. That’s down from 65% in January. A crowded field ALA 2016 would really help Trump. He can easily win the 2024 nomination with 45% of the total vote.

I think slowly Republicans are realizing that Trump is an albatross around their necks. Independents don’t like Trump and 2022 showed they don’t like his chosen candidates either. Trump can’t win the independent vote. The GOP is still the smaller of the two major parties, hence it is a must for them to win independents or lose the election as 2018, 2020 and 2022 proved. Most of Trump’s chosen candidates went down to defeat, non-Trump chosen Republican candidates won, like Kemp in Georgia, Sununu in New Hampshire, Murkowski in Alaska while his chosen candidates like Oz, Cox, Diehl, Masters, Lake, Laxalt, Dixon, Mastriano, Tshibaka etc. lost.

 

Bolton at one time was a reasonable and rational while ardent guy.

 

Would you rather face DeSantis?? He could actually win, since he's not quite as disgusting personally...

I'll take the perma-loser myself...

 

Boom, exactly.

As each fringe candidate waned, Ben Carson, etc, Turmp picked up the simpleminded supporters.

I think, just my opinion, John Kasich was by far, by far the best GOP candidate in the 2016 field. Measured, softened on LGBTQ rights compared to most, a long history of fiscal conservatism (which most GOPers only paid lip service to), moderate on many positions, but as the nutters exited their supporters gravitated to the cult of faux personality that was Trump.

 

another old white male candidate for democrats to rally behind aye?

 

I don't think there was much of a hidden agenda with Bolton.

 

Trump being the nominee and losing would be worse for the country than DeSantis winning.

Also, Trump being the nominee doesn't guarantee a Dem win.

 

For those who may not be 100% sure what a "Shermanesque statement" is (and I included myself, until I googled it), here is the derivation

https://politicaldictionary.com/words/shermanesque-statement/

I had seen that infamous line about not serving if elected, but didn't know it had an informal name...

Trump is still trying to figure out how singer Bobby Sherman came into the conversation...

 

Couldn't disagree more with both statements... but we can leave that here for now and watch to see how serious the Walrus is..

 

Bolton is just another DC drain fly that pops out of Trump's shower from time to time.

"PROJECT FOR A NEW AMERICAN CENTURY

January 26, 1998

The Honorable William J. Clinton
President of the United States
Washington, DC

Dear Mr. President:

...That strategy should aim, above all, at the removal of Saddam Husseins regime from power. We stand ready to offer our full support in this difficult but necessary endeavor.

... Our ability to ensure that Saddam Hussein is not producing weapons of mass destruction, therefore, has substantially diminished. Even if full inspections were eventually to resume, which now seems highly unlikely, experience has shown that it is difficult if not impossible to monitor Iraqs chemical and biological weapons production.... As a result, in the not-too-distant future we will be unable to determine with any reasonable level of confidence whether Iraq does or does not possess such weapons.

... The only acceptable strategy is one that eliminates the possibility that Iraq will be able to use or threaten to use weapons of mass destruction. In the near term, this means a willingness to undertake military action as diplomacy is clearly failing.
In the long term, it means removing Saddam Hussein and his regime from power.
That now needs to become the aim of American foreign policy.

... We urge you to articulate this aim ... Sincerely,

Elliott Abrams Richard L. Armitage William J. Bennett Jeffrey Bergner John Bolton Paula Dobriansky Francis Fukuyama Robert Kagan Zalmay Khalilzad William Kristol Richard Perle Peter W. Rodman Donald Rumsfeld William Schneider, Jr. Vin Weber Paul Wolfowitz R. James Woolsey Robert B. Zoellick"


1. "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." -- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.

2. "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction program." -- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

3. "We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction." --
Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998

4. "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983." -- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser,
Feb, 18, 1998

6. "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of
mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the
region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Rep.
Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

10. "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven
impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as
Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

12. "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We
are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to
build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence
reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..." -- Sen. Robert
Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.

17. "Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a
brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime . . . He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation . . . And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction . . . So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real . . ." -- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003


Trump is not the problem. Our corrupt bipartisan ruling political class is the problem.
So How do you think they manage to make all our leaders parrot the same line?
Alien space pods?

 

Bolton altered his agenda occasionally, but you are correct it was never hidden

 

John Bolton couldn't get elected "lamp post".

But the idea is solid! IF tRaitor tRump gets the GOP nomination, every "Real Conservative" of any notoriety should run as an 3rd (4th, 5th, 6th ...) candidate to siphon votes away from tRaitor tRump. Liz Cheney alone could tank his run.

 

I can't stand either man, even if Bolton shows a tiny bit more integrity (not a high bar). Still, he has no chance against Trump. As my aunts would say, "Bless his little heart."

 

IDK I think republicans are tiring of Trump as well due to midterms and have a hard time seeing him win anything again. But you never know...

 

Tiring of Trump? Sure. But they are going to need better than Bolton to defeat him. Trump, for all of his many, many faults, has charisma, and Bolton really doesn't. And that will matter when Trump is practically an incumbent in the party. DeSantis could probably beat Trump in the primaries (not sure about the general), and he's got stage presence. Bolton? Not so much.

 

Yeah i think it will be desantis as well

 

Afraid Trump can win much?

 

I agree. Kasich was by a lot the better candidate. He was one of only 2 candidates that had a positive over all rating when dealing with favorable/unfavorable. I forget the numbers; Rubio was the other one. This was all adults, not just Republicans which didn’t mean much in the Republican Primaries. I also think Kasich would have won over Hillary Clinton by 10 points or so.


Kasich appealed to the swing voters, independents. Trump nor Clinton did. 54% of all independents disliked, had an unfavorable view of both Clinton and Trump in 2016. This showed when 12% of independents voted third party against both major party candidates.


https://news.gallup.com/opinion/pol...mericans-dislike-presidential-candidates.aspx

 

Win much? When will he start?

 

There's no way he should be able to, but after his death defying win in 16 he should never be underestimated. Damn right I'm afraid, Government by the people barely survived his first mis-administration. He has every "deplorable" in OUR nation bamboozled by his Big Top Circus seditious cartel.

 

seriously, maybe you liked his songs but I think he sucked