Kherson offensive?

Discussion in 'Latest US & World News' started by zoom_copter66, Aug 29, 2022.

  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,764
    Likes Received:
    23,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope.
     
  2. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Your argument is now bankrupt.
    You lost.

    [​IMG]
     
  3. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,121
    Likes Received:
    13,599
    Trophy Points:
    113
    .
    running around crying "You lost" .. is not an argument for much mate .. looks to me like you the one who lost .. again ?!
     
    Lil Mike likes this.
  4. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm uninterested in whatever view you've been instructed to put forward.
     
  5. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 15

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways

    • Russia may be setting conditions to conduct a new offensive against Ukraine—possibly against Kyiv—in winter 2023. Such an attack is extraordinarily unlikely to succeed. A Russian attack from Belarus is not imminent at this time.
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin’s objectives in Ukraine have not changed.
    • Putin is using two simultaneous military efforts to pursue his objective of conquering Ukraine and securing major concessions.
    • Putin is likely setting conditions for a renewed offensive before the spring of 2023 to coerce Ukraine into offering concessions.
    • Russian forces may be setting conditions to attack from Belarusian territory, although ISW continues to assess that the Belarusian military will not join the fighting in Ukraine.
    • Ukrainian forces reportedly continued counteroffensive operations in the direction of Kreminna and Svatove.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka areas.
    • Russian forces continued defensive operations south of the Dnipro River in southern Ukraine.
    • The Russian officer corps continues to suffer heavy losses in Ukraine.
    • Ukrainian partisans conducted a sabotage attack on a power transformer substation in Berdyansk, Zaporizhia Oblast. . . . .
    Ukrainian forces reportedly continued counteroffensive operations in the direction of Svatove and Kreminna on December 15. The Russian Ministry of Defense (MoD) claimed that Russian forces thwarted Ukrainian assaults in the direction of Sofiivka, Luhansk Oblast (22km northwest of Svatove).[25] The Russian MoD also claimed that Russian forces repelled Ukrainian assaults in the direction of Ploshchanka (17km northwest of Kreminna), Holykove (10km northwest of Kreminna), and Kreminna.[26] Deputy Chief of the Main Operational Directorate of the Ukrainian General Staff, Brigadier General Oleksiy Hromov reported that Ukrainian forces advanced up to 1.5km in the vicinity of Dibrova (5km southwest of Kreminna).[27] A Russian milblogger claimed that positional battles are ongoing in Bilohorivka (12km south of Kreminna).[28]

    Ukrainian forces continued to strike Russian rear areas in Luhansk Oblast on December 15. Ukrainian and Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces struck Kadiivka, Luhansk Oblast (60km southeast of Kreminna) with HIMARS rockets.[29] A social media source claimed that Ukrainian forces struck a Russian ammunition warehouse in Kadiivka.[30] . . . .

    Ukrainian troops continued strikes against Russian concentration areas in Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts. Geolocated imagery posted on December 15 shows the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike on a Russian-occupied hotel in Zaliznyi Port, about 60km southwest of Kherson City.[45] The Ukrainian General Staff confirmed that December 13 Ukrainian strikes destroyed Russian ammunition depots and units of military equipment throughout Zaporizhia Oblast in Tokmak, Polohyi, and Berdyansk.[46] . . . .

    The Russian officer corps continues to suffer losses in Ukraine. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Russian forces are replenishing their operational-tactical command with retired officers and those released from reserve due to heavy officer losses.[51] ISW has previously reported on the officer-cadre shortage in Russian forces due to losses on the Ukrainian frontlines, which far exceeds Russian forces’ cumulative losses over 10 years of Russian operations in Chechnya.[52] ISW assesses that this practice will continue to further degrade already-poor command structures within Russian forces. . . . .
     
    Durandal likes this.
  6. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,121
    Likes Received:
    13,599
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who has been instructing who mate ... has voices in head telling that anyone disagree with is a Russian Operative .. right out of the paranoid schitzo handbook if you ask me .. as opposed the spy handbook ... which be another tale you try to spin .. pretending to have worked in the foreign service .. but, not having faintest idea about basic history.
     
    vis, Lil Mike and Bill Carson like this.
  7. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Grammar and usage errors gave you away.
     
    USVet and Durandal like this.
  8. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,121
    Likes Received:
    13,599
    Trophy Points:
    113
    stop with the paranoid schitzo accusations mate .. gets lame everytime someone disagree with you ... you cry "Russian Op .. Russian Op"
    :deadhorse::cynic:
     
    Bill Carson likes this.
  9. USVet

    USVet Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    2,197
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Durandal likes this.
  10. USVet

    USVet Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 1, 2018
    Messages:
    2,615
    Likes Received:
    2,197
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Patriots could be a bigger deal than people think because you'd almost certainly need trainers/advisers to go along with them. That would be a fundamental change because that would mean at least some boots on the ground.

     
    Durandal likes this.
  11. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    It remains the truth so I'll continue to call it out.
     
    USVet and Durandal like this.
  12. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,764
    Likes Received:
    23,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Nope I'm correct, you're wrong, as it always has been and will be.
     
  13. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I'm the one who supported his case with historical citations. You did not, and were apparently unaware of the history.
    You lost.

    [​IMG]
     
  14. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,121
    Likes Received:
    13,599
    Trophy Points:
    113
    These Paranoid Schitzo accusations leveled at anyone that disagree's with you are not "the truth" - it is "Ad Hom Fallacy"
     
    Lil Mike likes this.
  15. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Not leveled at anyone, only those whose grammar and usage errors give them away.
     
  16. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 16

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways

    • Russian forces conducted another set of large-scale missile strikes throughout Ukraine and one of the largest missile attacks against Kyiv to date.
    • Russian strikes continue to pose a significant threat to Ukrainian civilians despite generating no improvement in the Russian ability to conduct offensive operations.
    • Dmitry Medvedev made inflammatory but irrelevant comments in support of ongoing information operations that aim to weaken Western support for Ukraine.
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin will likely pressure Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko to support the Russian war in Ukraine further at a December 19 meeting in Minsk.
    • Lukashenko is already setting information conditions to deflect Russian integration demands.
    • Putin’s upcoming visit to Minsk could indicate that he is setting conditions for a new offensive from Belarusian territory.
    • Putin and Lukashenko’s meeting will likely advance a separate Russian information operation that seeks to break Ukrainian will and Western willingness to support Ukraine.
    • Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly ignored worst-case scenario assessments of potential damage to the Russian economy prior to launching his full-scale invasion of Ukraine.
    • Russia is continuing to face economic challenges as a direct result of the war in Ukraine.
    • Russian forces conducted counterattacks in the Svatove and Kreminna areas.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations in the Bakhmut and Avdiivka-Donetsk City areas.
    • Russian forces continued to undertake defensive measures on the left (east) bank of the Dnipro River.
    • Russian officials will likely struggle to recruit additional contract servicemembers despite ongoing efforts to do so.
    • Russian occupation authorities continued seizing civilian infrastructure to treat wounded Russian servicemen and aid Russian forces operating in occupied territories. . . . .
    Ukrainian forces continue to strike Russian rear areas in Luhansk Oblast. Russian and social media sources claimed that Ukrainian forces struck Russian rear areas in Kadiivka, Lantrativka, and Irmino in Luhansk Oblast on December 15 and 16.[29] A social media source claimed that there was an explosion at a weapons depot in Kadiivka.[30] A Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces struck a Russian ammunition depot in Irmino.[31] . . . .

    Ukrainian forces continued to target Russian logistics in Kherson and Zaporizhia oblasts. The Ukrainian General Staff reported that Ukrainian strikes on December 14 wounded about 180 servicemen and destroyed up to 10 pieces of equipment in Tokmak, Zaporizhia Oblast.[49] The Ukrainian General Staff noted that Russian forces are operating mobile crematoria in Tokmak and that Ukrainian forces eliminated up to 30 Russian servicemen in Lazurne on the left bank of the Dnipro River.[50] Geolocated footage published on December 16 also reportedly showed the aftermath of a Ukrainian strike on Skadovsk.[51] . . .
     
    Durandal likes this.
  17. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ukrainians are coming to Crimea.
    upload_2022-12-17_10-7-4.jpeg
    upload_2022-12-17_10-7-4.png
    A Biden admin official recently told members of Congress that Ukraine has
     
  18. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There's no apostrophe in the third person singular of the verb "to disagree."
     
  19. Observing

    Observing Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 12, 2016
    Messages:
    3,321
    Likes Received:
    910
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I don't think there is a settlement where Russia's military stays in Crimea (except sevastapol) or the other eastern provinces. After a UN sanctioned election in those provinces they will be aligned with Russia or Ukraine. I expect fully 1/2 of the land area will be in Ukarine hands at the time of the election and Ukraine will divest it's retaken land if ceded to russia in return for war reparations which will be huge. Ukraine will then join Nato and the EEC. No way Ukraine does not join Nato after this event, Ukraine will never trust russia not to invade again.
     
  20. Giftedone

    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 7, 2010
    Messages:
    64,121
    Likes Received:
    13,599
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Who is allowing UN to conduct a "sanctioned election" in Crimea ? Not gonna happen ... Champaigne wishes - Caviar dreams ..
     
  21. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2011
    Messages:
    51,764
    Likes Received:
    23,042
    Trophy Points:
    113
    They were citations that had nothing to do with your case.

    Lose again!
     
  22. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    They documented and confirmed my point. The fact that you may not have understood my point cannot be ruled out.
    You lost.

    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Dec 18, 2022
  23. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Durandal likes this.
  24. Jack Hays

    Jack Hays Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    Nov 3, 2020
    Messages:
    28,341
    Likes Received:
    17,956
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Ukraine Conflict Updates
    Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, December 17

    Click here to read the full report.
    Key Takeaways

    • The Kremlin is likely attempting to increase perceptions of Putin’s competence and of that of the Russian Ministry of Defense by publicizing Putin’s meeting with the joint headquarters of the Russian Armed Forces and Putin’s appearances at non-military events.
    • A New York Times investigation of Russian military documents from early in the war supports ISW’s longstanding assessments about how flawed Russian planning assumptions and campaign design decisions plagued Russia’s invasion of Ukraine from its onset.
    • Ongoing Russian offensive operations around Bakhmut are further driving a wedge between forces of the Donetsk People’s Republic and Yevgeny Prigozhin’s Wagner Group troops.
    • The US Central Intelligence Agency assesses that the Kremlin is not serious about negotiations with Ukraine, agreeing with a longstanding ISW assessment.
    • Ukrainian forces conducted counterattacks near Svatove and Kreminna and continue to strike Russian rear areas.
    • Russian forces continued offensive operations near Bakhmut and Avdiivka-Donetsk City.
    • Ukrainian officials warned that Russian forces may be attempting to draw Ukrainian forces into a trap on the east (left) bank of the Dnipro River.
    • Russia may be conducting an information operation falsely connecting ongoing negotiations on the demilitarization of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant to a prospective future Ukrainian counteroffensive in Zaporizhia Oblast.
    • Several Russian sources denounced a military commissar's claim that Russian authorities will extend the service period for conscript soldiers. An extension of the legal mandatory service period would not be necessary to keep current conscripts in the field, however, as all former conscripts are reservists, and all reservists are already eligible for mobilization. . . .
     
    Durandal likes this.
  25. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

    Joined:
    May 25, 2012
    Messages:
    55,779
    Likes Received:
    27,312
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Makes sense. It's not like there's much room for extremism when you're in a hard collective fight to defend your home and freedom. Now is a time when Ukrainians need to set aside such differences for the common good.
     
    Jack Hays likes this.

Share This Page