Firearms overtook auto accidents as the leading cause of death in children

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I completely agree! In fact, that's the point of this thread! Gun violence kills children. Abortion does not! I am happy to have an ally making my point.

    I just wanted to know (and right-wingers won't respond): if you oppose abortion because it implies "killing a child", are you also in favor of gun regulation for the same reason?
     
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    Well, I just looked at the methods of suicide in Japan Germany Poland Spain and Korea. Combined they represent about our population, and far exceed our total number of suicides. The majority in each are hanging related. Since access to firearms are limited in these first world countries, what sort of effect has that had on their suicide rates?
     
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    How many more die from abortion than guns? Surely if you believe so many by guns we should ban guns you would support banning abortion.
     
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    And the flip side of that coin is the DNC are so concerned with their base being able to process apposing information they conspire to make sure they only get one sided news and information :)

    How does that make you feel being thought of like that ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't know, but if they are increasingly violent and lawless without guns many children's lives will be saved.

    I see nobody on the right has answered the question: if you oppose abortion, and your argument is that it "kills a child", are you also for regulating firearms: the leading cause of child mortality in this country?
     
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    The DNC thinks their base can't handle all this all the information..
     
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    Start by disarming the inner-city gangs, thugs and dealers! This has been a issue for a very long time in DNC financed black neighborhoods!

    Gun Violence Leading Cause of Death of Black Children | AFRO American Newspapers
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    NONE die from abortion. But if you believe they do, then now you now that they ALSO die from guns. So why are you not advocating gun control? Is it a matter of numbers? How many children do you need to see dying before it's worth it for you to start paying attention to ways of stopping... or at least mitigating, the problem?

    Answer!
     
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    Really? Who's committing these acts of violence against children?
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    Absolutely!

    SCOTUS legislation (Heller) has made it illegal to just... "disarm them". So the way we "disarm" them is to make it more difficult for them to obtain guns.

    See? You ARE on my side! Except that every time you make a worthwhile argument, you realize that it contradicts your dogma, and you backtrack. Stick to your instincts!
     
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    I'm waiting to hear some sort of argument that this plan of your mitigates the problem.

    The people doing the killing are children. They are doing this over distribution disputes in a drug trade that kills children.

    Seems like your policy is an attempt to preserve a system that kills children...
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    "Who"? That's the best you could come up with? Asking for a list of names?

    That's hilarious!
     
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    How? Like heroin and other illegal items and enterprises :) This has been going on in DNC financed ghettos for almost a century!

    I'm not impressed :)
     
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    But I couldn't help notice that you didn't really address the idiotic question and totally ignored the others. Should the police / justice system do everything that they can to end gangs? What should be done about releasing known criminals and ending the absurd recidivism rates? Why so you want to ignore the part that the media plays in mass murder? Are you ready to have society honestly address, and condemn, the inner city culture that leads to crime?
    Do you really think that conservatives do not want to end children being murdered? Yea, buddy, we love us some dead children.
     
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    Oh! Absolutely! Here you go...
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/how-to-ban-guns-without-firing-a-single-shot.600040/

    But that's a different topic. I keep asking the same question again and again, and not a SINGLE right-winger answers it.

    If you oppose abortion and your argument is that it "kills a child", are you also for regulating firearms: the leading cause of child mortality in this country?
     
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    What I'm asking for is an actual analysis of the problem.

    So far we've got that some mysterious force is pulling the triggers of guns and killing children.
    The motive of this mysterious force is mysterious.

    and your conclusion is that if we remove guns from these other factors that we don't know about the force and the motive will mysteriously disappear.

    Not that great an argument if you ask me.
     
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    this leftist opinion piece from August should be placed into opinions or conspiracy section
     
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    Can you point me to the argument in your thread about banning guns? I don't see an argument that banning guns prevents child death in there.
     
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    Children, babies die in abortions. If you are advocating gun control to stop killing children then why are you not advocating ending abortion? How many more need to die before you start paying attention to stopping it or at least mitigating it?
     
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    Oh my, I just looked at the statistics and it is quite clear that a huge percentage of child deaths happen at hospitals. Think of how many children we could save if we made hospitals illegal.
     
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    That's correct! I do not address dumb questions except to make fun of them. It looks to me like answering an idiotic question seriously is elevating it beyond what it deserves and turns the debate into a kindergarten-level schoolyard brawl.

    Even more so because you didn't even make an attempt to answer mine. Which is the TOPIC of this thread. If you don't want to participate in the thread, then don't participate. If you have something to contribute, then answer the question.
     
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    Well one of the reasons is that abortion supporters tend to assume that children from economically depressed households are more likely to grow up to become violent strains on society. So they compassionately murder them for the precrime of being allowed to grow up impoverished.

    Of course the reality of the abortion demographic is that they are mostly performed for females that are financially secure, but that never seems to make an impact on the opinion.
     
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    The problem is child mortality due to firearms, which has become the number one cause of death for children. And whether right wingers who CLAIM they are preoccupied with abortion because THEY believe it kills a child are also preoccupied with our gun epidemic for the same reason.
     
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    This is not an analysis of the problem. This is simply a statement of a problem. Do you understand what I'm asking you?
     
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