"I like Hitler"

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  1. Pisa

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    Being born in a specific Asian country, to parents descended from Jews who have lived there for 2500 years, precludes one from being a white European Jew, which was your argument. You claimed that white European Jews are racists because one Jewish rabbi, automatically baptized by you "white European Jew" (whatever that means), said something racist. The poor argument is yours, not mine. You don't know anything about Jews, or Judaism.
     
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    it's just logic that being born in any country doesn't determine your skin colour. Wise up.
    The WJE is a racist fringe group. You don't know anything about Jews.
     
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    White Jewish Europeans - what we know about this fringe cult.

    The spiritual leader of the WJE is an anti black racist that uses disgusting racial slurs. This cult also believe that the biblical Jews were a pale white race as is evidenced by the religious productions they make. It has become common for WJE celebrities to mock black folk by painting their faces black and acting silly. This began as the minstrel show but while white culture began to reject it, contemporary WJE culture is embracing it.
     
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    No, I don't deny that the Holocaust happened and have already discussed this topic at length in related threads.

    In addition to enjoying plenty of good history lessons and teaching more than a few, I've lived and worked with WW 2 Veterans from both sides as well as German civilians who survived the fire bombings and other holocaust survivors.

    America's propaganda ministry, the OWI (Office of War Information) combined with Hollywood's movie moguls produced and still produces some of the most effective propaganda ever.(1), (2)

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    Actually, most of the world does not believe the typical demonic Hitler - standard Holocaust narrative. (3)

    As I mentioned earlier, it is important to acknowledge that most Westerners have been exposed to just one side of the "Evil German & demonic Hitler" narrative all our lives and earlier frauds like the "human skin lampshade", "human fat soap", shrunken head, homicidal Vaporizer(4) and "human skin pocketbook" all prove a deliberate and long running intent to deceive.

    Do you still believe the earlier WW 2 - Holocaust propaganda about the "human skin lampshade", "human fat soap", shrunken head, homicidal Vaporizer(4) and "human skin pocketbook" etc?

    Again, I try to stay open minded, objective and think for myself if something is rational or not. I hope you will too.

    Thanks,


    (1) “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe."



    (2) “Auschwitz: Myths and Facts”
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT “Allied Propaganda

    The Auschwitz gassing story is based in large part on the hearsay statements of former Jewish inmates who did not personally see any actual signs of extermination. Their beliefs are understandable, because rumors about gassings at Auschwitz were widespread. Allied planes dropped large numbers of leaflets, written in Polish and German, on Auschwitz and the surrounding areas which claimed that people were being gassed in the camp. The Auschwitz gassing story, which was an important part of the Allied wartime propaganda effort, was also broadcast to Europe by Allied radio stations. [15] CONTINUED

    15. Nuremberg document NI-11696. NMT "green series," Vol. 8, p. 606.


    (3) ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts.

    Some said they thought the number of people who died has been exaggerated; others said they believe it's a myth.

    Thirty percent of respondents said it's probably true that "Jews still talk too much about what happened to them in the Holocaust."

    - Hindus were most likely to believe that the number of Holocaust deaths has been exaggerated.

    - people younger than 65 were much more likely to say they believe that facts about the Holocaust have been distorted”CONTINUED


    (4) "Auschwitz: Myths and Facts"
    http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/auschwitz.shtml

    EXCERPT "At the Nuremberg Tribunal, chief US prosecutor Robert Jackson charged that the Germans had used a "newly invented" device to instantaneously "vaporize" 20,000 Jews near Auschwitz "in such a way that there was no trace left of them." [8] No reputable historian now accepts either of these fanciful tales."CONTINUED
     
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    Okay fine looking at it from both sides is cool and all, but talking to a few survivors on both sides doesn't change anything or make it better, history is what it is now and all that effective Hollywood propaganda works for a reason. All the victims can attest to that.

    What "most of the world" are you referring to specifically?

    Yeah I do, I've yet to see anything reliable that tells me I'm wrong, his own autobiography alone should be all the evidence you need. Ask Adolf Eichmann and if this wasn't as bad as folks try to make it seem then there wouldn't have been any need to try and escape to Argentina when the war ended.
     
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    Thanks for agreeing that being open minded is a positive thing. I would say that being open minded is the surest way to the truth.

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    I'm afraid you're mistaken."all" the victims did not attest to German atrocities. In fact the Red Cross interviewed thousands of former inmates and not one of them mention a homicidal gas chamber. Nobody I know has denied that conditions in the German run camps were dismal especially when typhus was rampant and no supplies could be delivered because the Allies destroyed virtually all civilian infrastructure but Allied investigators found no evidence of deliberate starvation

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    The ADL did a survey of people around the world and the article explains the details.

    ”THE WORLD IS FULL OF HOLOCAUST DENIERS”
    https://www.theatlantic.com/interna...he-world-is-full-of-holocaust-deniers/370870/

    EXCERPT “Only a third of the world's population believe the genocide has been accurately described in historical accounts." CONTINUED

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    Are you saying that you believe the Germans really made lampshades and pocketbooks out of human skin?
    Are you also serious when you say that reading Mein Kampf is all the proof needed to validate the standard Holocaust narrative?

    Finally, I plan on researching: Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946

    Thanks and enjoy the holidays,


    (1) "The Problems of Mass Gassing"
    https://www.biblebelievers.org.au/wasthere.htm
    • EXCERPT "The Vatican and Red Cross interviewed thousands of freed camp inmates at the end of the War about alleged gas chambers. The response was always the same, "The detainees themselves have not spoken of them" (Red Cross document No. 9925, June 1946). CONTINUED


    (2) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

    EXCERPT “Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED
     
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    "Everyone has something to bring to the table"

    I expected him to follow with something like "Hitler made the autobahn"

    Instead goes with "ESPECIALLY Hitler" lol
     
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    Wanna know the funniest part of all that? Even Alex "turn the frogs gay" Jones was telling him to reel it in a bit:no:
     
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    I'm pretty sure you can just look at all the malnourished bodies of survivors and victims and tell what happened. You don't turn skinny like that on accident.

    As for the gas chambers that inmates supposedly said didn't exist, I'm definitely gonna hard disagree on that.
    https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/education/resources/holocaust/gas-chambers-crematoria-birkenau/

    Hmmm that's an interesting tidbit of information. Only problem is at the end of the day, whatever that bit of the world doesn't believe in is irrelevant because the empty ruins, abandoned buildings and the fact that Auschwitz is now a UNESCO heritage site is all the evidence you need. Folks are free to take a trip there and tell everyone else they're wrong, though.

    Not sure about the human skin pocketbooks thing and that would make even Freddy Kruger proud, but I'm very serious when I say Mein Kampf tells you everything you need to know about Hitler and the Holocaust. He literally wrote down and described all his intentions and hateful feelings in the book.
     
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    And since we're still on the subject of Kanye and his decision to be as off-the-wall as possible, if he likes Hitler so much and thought he has something to bring to the table, let me be the one to point out that blacks in Nazi Germany were treated just as awfully and inhumanely as everyone else on Hitler's list. It went to the point where even blacks who weren't killed were forcefully sterilized and forbidden to have interracial relationships.
     
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    First of all, I just noticed that you recently joined this forum and would like to welcome you. While we may disagree on things like WW 2 and the Holocaust, I'm glad we can do so with civility. I'm sure there are topics on which we agree but this may not be one of them.

    Re:
    It sounds like you're describing typhus patients which were featured prominently in staged Allied propaganda films (1) because post war inspections by American MDs do not indicate deliberate starvation(2)as a means of punishment.

    Re:
    If millions of people were killed in homicidal gas chambers there would be hundreds of homicidal gas chambers all over German occupied territory. There would also be tons of related documents like blueprints, work orders, maintenance requests etc but nothing like that existed or exists so there could not have been homicidal gas chambers.

    Additionally, since the British cracked the secret German Enigma code, they could listen to secret German radio transmissions. Here, too, there is no mention of homicidal gas chambers even though they do mention executions by shooting and hanging.(3)

    EXCERPT "The Auschwitz death-registry volumes call into question the existence of homicidal gas chambers. Why would the German authorities record executions by shooting or hanging and not record any by gassings? Also, why did the Soviets suppress the release of these volumes for 44 years? The Auschwitz death-registry volumes are totally inconsistent with Auschwitz being a center of mass extermination using homicidal gas chambers.

    Another important piece of evidence arguing against the existence of homicidal gas chambers is that the British broke the ultra-secret Enigma code used by the Germans to encode radio transmisions. During 1942 and 1943 British intelligence intercepted daily encoded messages from Auschwitz, Buchenwald, Dachau and seven other camps. Every day the Germans recorded the numbers of dead and the causes of death at each camp. The transmissions from Auschwitz mentioned illness as the primary cause of death, but also reported deaths attributable to shootings and hangings. There was no reference to gassing as a cause of death in any of the decoded messages
    . CONTINUED(3)

    You are welcome to believe anything you like but the only "evidence" that they existed comes from stories told by some very creative liars. Moshe Peer, for example, claimed to have survived 6 gassings(4)

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    It's "all the evidence you need" to see what a severely altered, Soviet theme park looks like. Did you know that immediately after the war, Auschwitz served as a Soviet run German POW camp and significant structural alterations were made to make it look as sinister as possible.

    In order to perpetuate the homicidal gas chamber myth, the Soviets forced German POWs into making one after the war to show the world a "real homicidal German gas chamber".(5)
    Fortunately, the new construction and other details were enough to reveal the truth of this hoax that was the only German made homicidal gas chamber of the era.

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    Unless you read "Mein Kampf" in the original German you're only going to get a distorted rendition of what he really thinks. I have yet to see an honest and accurate English translation so far.
    Finally, I hope that you're not serious in saying that one book contains "everything you need to know about Hitler and the Holocaust..."

    There's always much more to learn.

    Thanks,




    (1) “The Director of the Holocau$t - Khazar Expatriate Billy Wilder”
    https://archive.org/details/TheDirectorOfTheHolocaut-KhazarExpatriateBillyWilder

    EXCERPT “Almost all the films you've ever seen of the Holocaust were staged. Using Allied propaganda as a rough script, directors from Hollywood were shipped to Germany and Poland to direct propaganda films for post-war use. One of the most notable of these was Billy Wilder, director of meny very well known films, such as "Some Like It Hot" with Marilyn Monroe." CONTINUED


    (2) “Allied Forensic Autopsies Confirm Disease, Not Gas”
    https://20thcenturytruth.wordpress.com/allied-forensic-autopsies-confirm-disease-not-gas/

    EXCERPT “Dr. Russell Barton further testified that on entering the camp he had credited stories of deliberate starvation but decided such stories were untrue after inspecting the well equipped kitchens and the meticulously maintained ledgers, dating back to 1942, of food cooked and dispensed each day.

    Despite noisily publicised claims and widespread popular notions to the contrary, no researcher has ever been able to document a German policy of extermination through starvation in the German camps.” CONTINUED


    (3)" Did German Homicidal Gas Chambers Exist?"
    http://www.inconvenienthistory.com/12/1/7200


    (4) “Dozens & Dozens of the Most Outrageous Tales of the Holocaust”
    http://wolfgangrudolf.blogspot.com/2016/12/dozens-dozens-of-most-outrageous-tales.html

    EXCERPTS:
    • Moshe Peer's astounding Holy Shoah tale - Gassed six times by the Nazis and survived!! - Claims people were murdered in gas chambers at Bergen-Belsen

    • William Lowenberg's astounding Holocaust tale - Had a magic thirst-quenching pebble, did not drink water, survived on his saliva for 3 years

    • Yankel Wiernik's Holotale - Babies torn in half, woman leaps 10 ft barbed-wire fence, guards nail inmates' ears to walls, jews roasted on giant outdoor hibachis

    • Testimony from the Eichmann Trial by Leon Wells - Dug up and burned bodies, used bone-grinding machine, ate lunch on top of corpses

    • Irene Zisblatt's incredible Holocaust tale- Ate and retrieved diamonds from feces, had 2 post-sterilization children, weighed 40 lbs when liberated

    • Rivka Yosselevska's absurd Holocaust fable - Escaped biting jew corpses, witnessed geysers of blood” CONTINUED


    (5) "NKVD Forced German POWs to Build Fake Gas Chambers AFTER the War !"
    https://vk.com/@-181845420-nkvd-forced-german-pows-to-build-fake-gas-chambers-after-the
     

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