Proud Boys Charged With Sedition in Capitol Attack

I'm not sure if you're aware of this but that wasn't debate.

I'm not interested in debating you. If you want to believe this is because I can't back up my position that's fine.

The more you try to provoke the less likely I'll oblige. Your attempts to engage in debate with me are incredibly transparent.

No.

 

And they just happened to pull this charge out of their asses the day before the big dog and pony prime time TV show.

**** them.

 

Washington DC jury selection begins today.
iirc: They're all being held without bond?


"Proud Boys Trial Is Set to Open, Focusing on Role in Jan. 6 Violence"

"The charge of seditious conspiracy is the same as in a recent trial of members of the Oath Keepers militia, but the Proud Boys defendants are accused of a central role in the fighting at the Capitol."

Snip:

"While prosecutors could have taken the five Proud Boys to trial on relatively simple charges like trespassing or interfering with law enforcement officers, they instead aimed higher and charged sedition, which carries a hefty 20-year maximum sentence and has much more serious political connotations. But by doing so, the government has assumed the burden of proving that the defendants plotted in advance of Jan. 6 to use force to oppose the authority of the U.S. government or to interfere with the execution of federal laws — in this case, those that govern the transfer of presidential power.

Much as in Mr. Rhodes’s trial, the government’s presentation in the Proud Boys trial will seek to bolster its sedition charges with thousands of internal text messages seized by the government and insider testimony from cooperating witnesses. But the differences between the two proceedings may be more instructive than their similarities.

For one thing, prosecutors never accused Mr. Rhodes and his four co-defendants of personally committing serious acts of violence at the Capitol. Instead, they proved that the Oath Keepers plotted to use force against the government by pointing out that the group persistently said a civil war might be needed to fight the administration of Joseph R. Biden Jr. and that on Jan. 6 it stashed an arsenal of high-powered weapons in hotel rooms in Virginia.

But in trying the Proud Boys, prosecutors plan to take a different tack: They will offer the jury a detailed account of how the five defendants — including Enrique Tarrio, the group’s former chairman — led their own troops and other “tools” in the mob into battle at the Capitol and played a central role in breaches of the building and in hand-to-hand fights with the police;."

cont:
https://archive.ph/Zz2Xn

 

Yes. It's super duper fake!

 

Trial to begin Monday for ex-Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio.
Will he testify?

Snip:

"DeMaria and other lawyers uninvolved in the Proud Boys’ case said Tarrio may have a “withdrawal-from-the-conspiracy” argument, noting that he left Washington the day before the Jan. 6 breach of the Capitol.

But, to prevail on that defense, Tarrio would have to take the witness stand, abandon the Proud Boys and “turn on his own movement,” DeMaria said.

Read more at: https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article270037307.html#storylink=cpy


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/article270037307.html

 

No, they have been, “held without bond”, since they were arraigned on those charges. They couldn’t have been incarcerated, without bond or at all, without having been indicted.

The reason it’s taken this long is their counsel has been negotiating the terms of the trial. They didn’t pick this week just to make tRaitor tRump look bad. But when you’re a one man crime wave practically anything … and everything makes you look bad.

 

Denial is not a coherent defense.

UPDATE

A federal judge on Wednesday ruled that a video of former President Donald Trump telling the Proud Boys to...

"stand back and stand by" ​

can be used by prosecutors in a trial of leaders of the far-right group...

[T]he judge who made the decision, Timothy Kelly, was appointed by Trump...

[A]llowing Trump's statement about the Proud Boys as admissible evidence was an "important trial ruling" in the trial of Proud Boys leaders. Five group members are charged with seditious conspiracy for their alleged efforts to stop Joe Biden from assuming the presidency on January 6, 2021.

Kelly ruled that Trump's statement "is relevant evidence to the motivation of the Proud Boys to attack the Capitol"...

Trump was asked by moderator Chris Wallace if he would condemn white supremacist groups. Then-candidate Biden then specifically mentioned the name of the Proud Boys.

"Proud Boys, stand back and stand by," Trump replied...

Kelly cited a post on Parler after the debate from defendant and then-Proud Boys Chairman Enrique Tarrio that read,

"Standing by sir."

[https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...e-he-appointed-kirschner-explains/ar-AA16goIn]​

 

Hahaha! Another nothing burger.

 

LMAO, good point though

 

Weird worshipers need to keep telling themselves that.

 

Apparently not.

 

And when Trump is elected he will pardon them.

 

Of course. He will need them for the next attack.

 

Yeah because storming the capital is nothing to kneeling for the anthem. It seems Trump supporters forgot what is legal.

 

The Capitol is the peoples house.

 

Where the people's business is done. It's not a place for them to be when it's closed and certainly not a place intended for them to **** on it's floors while in the process of attempting to murder OUR elected officials.

 

And I expect those 1/6 guests to pay for the damage they did.

 

With their freedom, most of them couldn't buy a door knob for "their house".

 

They seem to think their opinion only matters.

 

And they should.

 

They were the people and they had a right to be there which is why the new Republican House has opened it back up to the people. The House should never be closed, just lock the office doors. Someone opened those big heavy doors for them. Why?

 

I'll will bet you there are off hours and days when OUR Capitol is closed to visitors ... EVEN ... under rethuglican control. To do otherwise would contravene the security plans put in place since 1/6/2021.

Someone. "Someone", were the proud boys that broke out windows, went in and went around and opened the doors from the inside.

 

Are you sure that is how the doors were opened?

 

Yes, I'm pretty sure there is video of it and I'm sure I read it as well.

 

Have you seen a video showing the protestors actually opening the doors from the inside? You should have been able to post such videos because the J6 Committee would have shown those by now. I've only seen videos from inside and the door already opened with the protestors coming into the building.