Trump sues journalist Bob Woodward

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  1. Trixare4kids

    Trixare4kids Well-Known Member

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    :dohtwo: Duh, Oh really? Who wrote that he did?
    Where did I write or where did anyone write that Trump wouldn't have to prove his allegations? Seriously, I think you just pull stuff out of thin air to have something to say.
     
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    Just because Trump said it does not make it so. In his complaint, he is basically stating "I have stated several times, in the presence of others,............." For a contract to be violated, it has to be agreed in both parties. What is notably absent is that Trump never acknowledges that Woodward agreed.
     
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    Usually, when you file a lawsuit alleging a violation of some kind, you provide some prima facie evidence to prove your claim. Trump merely explained that what Woodward wrote is not what I said even though he has tapes. Therefore, the tapes must have been altered.

    In the professional field, Trump is walking on very thin ice here. He alleges the argument but never follows up with one quote of the evidence. My guess, his lawyers will try to get an independent person to examine the tapes, very risky legally. Woodward and hhis attorneys will provide evidence that the tapes are originals and that the chain of custody has not been altered. The judge will go with Woodward on this situation.
     
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    Why don't you just stay with the thread topic? The complaint and what it actually alleges. And where did anyone say Trump would not have to prove his claims?

    Of course, it is up to Trump to prove his claims in order to win the lawsuit. Nobody here disputes otherwise.

    You really do not know how this is going to end because you, like me, haven't seen all the evidence that proves or disproves Trump's allegations. Just a friendly suggestion, try less spinning.
     
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    It wasn't a news interview it was for a book.........geeez.

    Go read the lawsuit text.
     
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    Lol, why waste time reading the complaint? Spinning is easier.
     
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    He'll have to to support his claim.
     
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    WE AREN'T THE ONES SUING HIM MAKING THE ALLEGATION.

    Go read what Trump is saying in his lawsuit. You are obligated to enter the debate prepared. It is a mere 30 pages but only a couple concern the stipulations.
     
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    And just about edits in the tape right?
     
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    He's very bombastic at times. No doubt about it, but I thought his haters know more about Trump than anyone else?
     
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    Trump's reality is someone selling 600,000 copies of their book in its first week get defined as a "complete and total failure".
    Curious how many copies were eventually sold.
    Bottom line is Trump has to prove that that claim was Woodwards motive/intent to publish the audio.



    'In publishing Rage, Woodward clearly hoped to replicate the success of Fear, but he failed to do so. Faced with the reality that Rage was a complete and total failure, Woodward decided to exploit, usurp, and capitalize upon President Trump’s voice by releasing the Interview Sound Recordings of their interviews with President Trump in the form of an audiobook,” the suit claims".
     
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    Woodward has been a very influential source of information.
    Ordinary people should look forward to having his credibility throughly tested.
     
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    Next up from team Trump: Reverse Class Action Law Suit against all Americans for not being loyal to Trump.
     
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    You mean the edited/doctored portions weren't listed in the lawsuit? lol
     
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    There's the possibility that Woodward made copies of the original audio tapes for safe-keeping.
     
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    I'm aware of the details. It's why I cited the case without going into detail. It makes my point that we should not dismiss what seems to be a frivolous lawsuit without knowing all the details. Trump might have a case.
     
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    I would think that Trump has copies of the 18 interviews he gave with Woodward at the White House, Mar a Lago and on the telephone.
    Bill Clinton had a set of tapes from his interviews.
     
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    I think all the questions at his deposition, must in some way relate to this case, don't they? I mean, they can't ask, "What is the true identity of 'Deep Throat,'" right?
     
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    "Reverse" Class Action-- genius!
     
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    If you want others to take your advice to be "friendly," it would probably help if you didn't begin many posts to them, with the word "Duh," or rate their overall contribution to the Forum, as vacuous (just pulled "out of thin air, to have something to say")--

    just a friendly suggestion.
     
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    Just a friendly suggestion, I don't remember writing my post to you.
     
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    he won't as the claim is not valid, like so many other cases... but let's watch and see
     
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    How do you know for a fact it is not valid. Cite from the contract where it says Trump grants all rights to the usage to Woodward.
     
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    Since DC is a "single consent" jurisdiction regarding recordings the burden of proof would not be on Woodward to prove that he had the rights...but upon Trump to prove that Woodward did not.
     
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    Probably will not ask that question. Deep Throat was FBI boss. ;-)
     

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