Trump and his family failed to report nearly $300,000-worth of gifts from foreign governments, House

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  1. DEFinning

    DEFinning Well-Known Member Donor

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    Your projectionism, I see, is still going strong. While I cannot know what you see, when you look at words, if you have been reading the same sorts of posts as I have, you should have noticed Dems, rather often, saying things that are either negative, or unenthusiastic, about Biden. There are clearly more of those (whom you would consider "on the left") whose opinion is closer to, "I'm not crazy about Biden, and I'd prefer if the Democrats put up a younger candidate, in '24-- but he's still better than Trump," than there are those, saying "Biden is the greatest President we've ever had!" If that last line, nonetheless, sounds somewhat familiar to you-- it is because of all those here, who have said this about Trump. It has even been the subject of an entire thread.

    Therefore, you can provably be shown, to be making nothing but a bogus argument (once more).
     
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  2. Junkieturtle

    Junkieturtle Well-Known Member Donor

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    Nope, the word you were looking for was "observing". You can do the same thing too if you remove the blinders.
     
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  3. DentalFloss

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    Another day, another likely baseless charge against a person who currently is just a wanna be for a future office run. If he kept some gift from a foreign leader, who really cares? Did it effect our lives? Cause prices to increase, or the availability of needed products to decrease? Did it put us in any danger?

    And how many is this now, 1,500? 2,000?

    I don't even like the guy and I'm getting so tired of hearing all the things he purportedly did that makes him worse than satan himself. If people would spend half the time on their own betterment that they do trying to bash this guy, everyone would be rich.
     
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    We know he paid stormy daniels. We know she signed an NDA that is now no longer valid under state law, NY. We know that he used campaign funds, per statements by his former associates. the question is, is that really a crime? The DA thinks it is, hence why there is a grand jury investigation that may or may not do a bill or say no bill.

    However, that does not stop Trump from using this situation to further his own cause, namely to win the GOP nomination again and pretty much go on a vendetta tour to anyone and everyone he thinks was not loyal enough to him.

    If he is indicted, then fine, let the judicial process run its course. If he is not indicted, then fine, we know there is not enough evidence to indict. But even that does not mean what he did was ethically wrong and shouldn't have been done to begin with.
     
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    False, it genuinely was projecting. And is now.
     
  6. bx4

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    That would be illegal so no - that didn’t happen.
     
  7. Junkieturtle

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    At no time in the past, present, and at no time in the future will any statement I have made or have yet to make about Trump be any form of projection. There is simply no need to project, to exaggerate, or to fabricate. The man is a walking dumpster fire and provides all the legitimate ammunition one needs to make a sound and thorough judge of his character.

    My question to you is, why do you choose to ignore it?
     
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    It absolutely is, but furthermore it’s also not my fault you choose to believe propaganda. The msm has done a number on the lefts perception of the world lol.
     
  9. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I totally agree Trump should be investigated for financial contributions by foreign governments.

    Same for Joe and Hunter.
     
  10. jcarlilesiu

    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You must not have attended that partisan college thay teaches you how to speak out of both sides of your mouth.
     
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    jcarlilesiu Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There it is!
     
  12. fullmetaljack

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    @Junkieturtle , he will ignore it because that's how the right deals with reality.
    When the facts clash with their preconceptions, they ignore and evade them, construct a fantasy world, and claim their opponents are deluded.Note the lack of a constructive response that addresses the facts.

    Objectively speaking, of course.
     
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    These "bookkeeping" things never come with criminal charges. Here's some examples:

    Cori Bush paid her husband tens of thousands of dollars from her campaign funds for "security" despite him not being licensed in her home state or DC to perform said services.

    Ihan Omar paid her husband millions for "consulting" which funneled campaign funds into household funds.

    Neither have been charged. In the case of Trump, you have to prove that he was directly involved which can be difficult to prove which is why the previous DA and Feds who investigated it said there wasn't anything there to bring charges. Even Stormy Daniels's attorney said there wasn't anything there to prosecute Trump and he hates his guts and wants to end his political career.
     
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    That’s some serious projection.
     
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    Still no response from you that addresses the facts, objectively speaking.
    Are you going to project some more ?
     
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    There is nothing to address. Your projection is not something that requires any more in-depth of a call out.
     
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    You didn't answer @Junkieturtle , objectively speaking. I do my projecting with a Bell & Howell so your reference to a call out is just you projecting.
     
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    I directly addressed the projection, and you are replicating it.
     
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    I'm hearing the sneaky "whataboutism" bandit just around the corner. How soon will it be before the lefties release him on you? :)
     
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    The Clintons also stole a ton of things from the White House on their way out. When they were caught they had to return them and then held a fundraiser for people to donate money to them while falsely claiming they were broke.
     
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    So, objectively, you are ignoring the issue and deflecting with projection.
    Got it.

    Probably a good move since, objectively, the facts are against you.
     
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    Cool. It shows that Chinese efforts to donate to Democrats and also Republicans were either rejected at the outset, or the money returned when the source was discovered.
    Still waiting for your proof that China donated millions to the Clintons. Your link shows China tried to do so, but failed.
     
  24. Wild Bill Kelsoe

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    It also shows that the DNC and the Clinton campaign took the money.

    But, you said it didn't even happen. Is this where you change your tune?
     
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    Yes they did return them or paid fair market value. Which was the right thing to do. It’s atrocious they tried to take those things in the first place.


    This thread is about the fact that trump not only took $300,000 worth of things that were given by foreign governments, he also failed to record the gifts as required. And yet his supporters give him a pass.

    Oh and by the way he collects FAR more through fundraising than the Clintons, and he claims to be a billionaire. He’s a thief and a grifter.
     

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