Donald Trump Will Hold Campaign Rally in Waco During 30th Anniversary of Branch Davidian Standoff

Man, catering to extremists and conspiracy theorist. Must be Trump's target demographic.

Indeed, Trump is kicking off his campaign in Waco, on the 30th anniversary of the Christian groups demise.

But that was not intentional at all says the Trump campaign.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65068125

With the spectre of criminal charges hanging over his third bid for the White House, Donald Trump has scheduled a massive rally in Texas this weekend.

The campaign event, planned for Saturday, marks the former president's return to a traditionally conservative state in which he remains very popular.

But his decision to hold the rally in Waco - best known for an armed standoff 30 years ago - has raised eyebrows.

The 1993 tragedy is seen as a landmark event for the American far-right.

A city of about 140,000 people in the heart of Texas, Waco is celebrated these days as host to Baylor University, the Dr Pepper Museum and the home-improvement reality show Fixer Upper.

Three decades ago, however, it was where FBI agents, the US military and Texas law enforcement laid siege to a religious cult known as the Branch Davidians.


The small, insular Christian sect was led at the time by David Koresh, 33, an apocalyptic prophet who allegedly believed he was the only person who could interpret the Bible's true meaning.

Under Koresh, the Branch Davidians had stockpiled weapons in order to become an "Army of God".

Authorities intended to conduct a surprise daylight raid on 28 February 1993 and arrest Koresh, but what ensued was a 51-day standoff that left 76 people dead, including more than 20 children and four federal agents.

 

If Trump said the sky was blue, the obsessed anti-Trump brigade wouldn't believe him. So if he said, there is no correlation to the stockpiling guns toating Branch Davidians, they wouldn't believe him.

There's your answer.
Carry on with the conspiracy theories.

 

Well, he sure seems to be catering to nutters.

 

I don't know much about the Waco incident myself, but I think part of what led to the standoff and tragedy there is the huge amount of heat that the government brought to bare on these religious nutters. Was it really that necessary? I think we have a problem in general in our society that we think the answer to everything is bigger, badder, the best ammo a person can get. I think its a nationwide sickness, not attached to any party.

 

I suppose you really believe religious wackos, anti-government type gun nutters are going to be present at Trump's kickoff rally. Lol, that's funny.

 

Aren't they at all of his rallies? I think they wear red hats.

 

How would you know unless you were also there?

 

A closer look at Seventh-day Adventists in America


Seventh-day Adventists are among the most racially and ethnically diverse American religious groups: 37% are white, while 32% are black, 15% are Hispanic, 8% are Asian and another 8% are another race or mixed race. About seven-in-ten Seventh-day Adventists live in either the South (40%) or West (31%) regions of the U.S.

 

Anyone who thinks this is just a coincidence is giving Trump way too much credit. This is well-planned, to cater to the RW extremists, while at the same time allowing plausible deniability to not turn away the more moderate RWers.

 

Lol that funny that you don’t. Trump has a boner every time he thinks of Jan 6. And would like nothing Better than to have some sort of repeat.

 

Giving Trump credit or not has nothing to do with the wacky conspiracy theory rooted in wishful thinking by the anti-Trump brigade.

 

Unless you've literally seen Trump's boner every time he thinks of Jan 6, your post is even funnier than the others on this thread.

 

Okay I will give you that one as odds are the misshapen mushroom can no longer errrr “rise to the occasion”.

But there is strong evidence from people who witnessed his behaviour during Jan 6 that he was playing and replaying the more violent parts. Then there are his repeated calls to his more violent followers, his violent tweets etc etc etc

But you be you and keep cheering this on - I have to ask though Are you one of those actually sending him money?

 

The deliberate murder of the (amittedly crazy, but also peaceful) Branch Dividians by the FBI&ATF is one of the most notable modern examples of lethally and overtly violent authoritarianism by Fedgov on US soil. Its not a 'conspiracy theory' that the feds opted to allow Koresh to pass through their blockade multiple times on his way to give radio interviews because they preferred to assault his compound (and his followers) instead of arresting him individually, nor is it a 'conspiracy theory' that the type of 'non-lethal' gas grenades used on the wooden compound were understood at the time to have incendiary side effects. The federal govt clearly wanted the Branch Dividians to be made an example of. Even the kids. The govt didnt gaf that Koresh had mind-****ed a buncha folks into giving him all their money (or else there's 10,000 other churches across the nation they would have similarly bulldozed with literal tanks before burning to the ground). The feds were pissed that Koresh's particular cultists respected him and not the govt.

Frankly, I think Trump is right on the money here ...possibly in more ways than he even realizes.

 

At least, yours, is a plausible and interesting conspiracy theory.

 

That Davidian standoff involved some corrupt law enforcement who mishandled the situation, with horrendous consequences that didn't have to be that way.

Over a law that some disagree with, or many more believe should not have been enforced that way.

One of the higher level people leading/directing the raid later committed suicide because he couldn't deal with the guilt, which gives you some idea how bad it was.

 

You know, it's interesting to ask ourselves the exact reasons why the Left doesn't see this as a notable tragedy.

I would guess maybe
1. The victims were Christians (and being white doesn't help either)
2. This group believed they had rights and was trying to defend themselves from law enforcement. (Left is more collectivist, individual must surrender and hand over all their rights of self defense to government)
3. This group had guns, was part of the conservative gun culture so prevalent in Texas, especially back at that time.

With all the hubbub the Left has made in recent years about police abusing people's rights, you'd think maybe they'd actually cite this as one more historical incident of injustice & oppression. But no...

 

Just to point out, law enforcement sources and the media exaggerated how "radical" his teachings were and how cult-like the movement actually was. You can read some interviews from former members, now no longer affiliated with that sect, who say the teachings weren't really that far different from standard fundamentalist Christianity, that the members were completely free to leave whenever they wanted, did not feel trapped there.

Most of the media narratives are rather misleading about what happened, and one sided. It almost seemed like the law enforcement outside was trying to provoke a fight. The people inside were too scared to come out. Then there's evidence they brought in military tanks equipped with flame throwers and set the building ablaze, women and children inside. Though they tried to cover that up. Acting more like a military operation against enemy soldiers than a law enforcement operation.

 

Sadly so many of Trump's devotees are blinded to all they have in common with Koresh's devotees.
They'd give their first born son to be holed up with him at Mar a Lago

The ****ing moron knows he went too far with his threats to Bragg so what's he gonna do tomorrow?
Put Bragg on the back burner and go after Smith, James and Willis for starters?
Will he even have the decency to acknowledge those that lost their lives, especially the children?
Will he hold his Bible right side up?
**** Trump!

 

Is Trump planning a shootout when they come to arrest him? Is that what he’s signaling?

 

Oh, I'm sure he'll play it up for all it's worth.
Like those "Angel Moms"

But why do I get the feeling you are more outraged by children in Iraq being bombed by your government than white Christian children being bombed by your government in your own country?

 

Well, what does he have to lose? It's not like the Left could hate him any more than they already do.

You know many of his inherent beliefs and policies would actually have been more like moderate Democrats (maybe one from 4 decades ago), but he ended up being the Republican nominee and the Democrats, outraged that he would dare to cut off illegal immigration, refused to compromise with him or make any deals, even at a cost to their own self-professed interests, just because they wanted to see him fail and didn't want him to be able to claim any success.

The Left should have realized that if they were going to cut him off completely, he'd have nowhere else to turn but Right. I would say that, politically, they pushed him to seek alliances further right.

A "monster" of the Left's creation (unintentional and indirectly). Sort of like the decades-long cultural war on Christianity, what did you think was going to fill that vacuum?

 

Because it's you who differentiates between children, not me.

 

Cool. Trump is having a rally on the anniversary

 

I often notice how media shapes reality (public perceived reality) by focusing on certain things and not on others. This leads to the type of distorted thinking of a schizophrenic. If each member of society represents a neuron, then it leads to dysfunctional mental processing by the collective consciousness.

What are the real issues? What is important? Everything has lots of factors, which are more important than others?

Was this historical incident really that important and a worthwhile landmark for Trump to visit? People always want to dig up the parts of the past that validate (or that can be used to validate) their own ideological bias.

For modern day Democrats, certain incidents in history can represent a lot of things. What does this incident represent?