Feel Safe Now?

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Just A Man, Mar 25, 2023.

  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    It is not necessary for a person to be an immediate physical threat for them to not belong inside the borders of the United States. I am a proponent of ending the war on drugs, and legalizing (not decriminalizing... flat out making heroin as easy for an adult to purchase as booze is) all recreational substances. It is the only way to be able to insure quality, purity, and that you are getting what you want (how many have died taking what I legally take everyday, because some drug kingpin is making fake ones with fentanyl instead of xanax or percosets?), but despite our experience with prohibition, this seems to be an idea that is not gaining traction.

    For that matter, that is something the dems could champion instead of creating wars over pronouns and trying to teach inappropriate classes to children so young they aren't growing hair in odd places what was once considered uncontroversial and commonsense restrictions that were self-policing.

    But open borders will never be a good idea. It doesn't add any value to the country, it dilutes jobs and wages available, as someone used to a mud hut with dirt floors will take $5/hour and say thank you all day long and twice on Sunday, all the while thinking they are getting rich and maybe even ripping off 'the man' in the process. We also do not know who to trust, especially from countries that are essentially stuck in the 19th century as far as their ability to police their own citizenry, and even tell us who is who, and whether or not they have proven to be a trustworthy person.

    Yeah, yeah, there are jobs Americans won't do... bullshit. There are jobs people don't want to do because Uncle is making it possible for them to be that picky, but cut off the free $hit programs, and you'll see what people are and are not willing to do in order to not starve, and if it drives a little one-time inflation in vegetable pricing because all of a sudden producers have to pay people more, so be it. The current inflation driven by government overspending (which they just can't stop doing, if you take a look at Joes budget you'll see) is more than that ever would have been had they clamped the thing down when they had the chance. I have sympathy for people who come from 3rd world countries, but if you don't speaka de englais, and your best skill is being able to learn how to use a mop, then you are not worthy of being here. Sorry, sometimes life sucks and then you die.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    the war on drugs forces people to buy illegal drugs in the same way prohibition of alcohol forced people to buy illegal alcohol
     
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    Except that no one is “forced” to buy illegal drugs. Buying illegal drugs is a choice.
     
  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://eazysmoke.com/marijuana-quotes.htm

    "The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this."
    - Albert Einstein quote on Hemp"

    looking in a mirror, wondering if he would be able to see his reflection if he was going the speed of light..... hmmmm
     
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  5. JohnHamilton

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    Yes, that was one of the stupid things Trump said, but when asked if they would give free healthcare to illegal aliens, everyone of your party’s presidential candidates held up their hands. It was one minor example of how your party incentivizes illegal immigration.
     
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    fake news
     
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    Even I don't think Rush Limbaugh does not have a mental illness. I think he was addicted to the effects of opioids because of an operation. Opioids are very addictive. And our first encounter with this type of epidemic was in the 1940s and 50s with something called morphine. I have never been a fan of Rush since the first time in the mid-80s I went to one of his "shows" where I saw something where group think was on full display with too many people following like sheep in a cult-like status for Rush Limbaugh. this was before he became nationally famous in the 1990s.


    I think you are using 19th-century logic and medicine here which was the norm for medicine up until the late 1990s. Addiction is simply a brain chemical imbalance. A chemical brain imbalance is not a mental disorder, it is a biological/chemical disorder. The problem sometimes is that medicine for some mental diseases that can create nasty side effects or to block pain, a chemical to block the neuro impulses to the brain and create false positives can cause addiction. Neuroscience has come a long way in the last 20 years or so with chemical brain studies and we are now learning that a lot of the old medical habits are quite frankly, very outdated, which you are using now.


    It appears more than you as posted above.

    You deny all the time, especially if it involves any type of consequence on your part. But it is easy to deny if you are not facing any consequence of any sort. Why do you think people, even the most "honest" in appearance will deny something as simple as an affair, an addiction, or something much worse and criminal?
     
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    I think you need a better explanation here. I have seen **** that only Hollywood would dream of, unfortunately, and none of it had to do with war or the military.
     
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    If you legalize all drugs, then yes, you are decriminalizing the possession, sell, distribution, and so forth of those drugs mostly. It then becomes a matter of administrative law if you have a license to do so and that is not a crime where jail time occurs, but a fine or the business is shut down.

    I think there are medical aspirations that need to be studied with certain illicit drugs, but that is as far as I will go.

    For borders, we have controlled borders, not open or closed. Yes, it is not very efficient because we have had EWI since as long as I can remember and even longer than that. So, for clarification, an open border quite literally means no entry points or points of inspection, period. And we don't have that since 1873 when that became law and we created "inadmissible alien." A closed border quite literally means no immigration, legal or otherwise. And yes, immigrants do add value to this country. Just because you don't see it does not mean it is there. But our border system is broken for the most part. In part because we have a very complex and expensive legal entry system, even for visitors and temporary immigrants whom we automatically assume, under INA 214b, that they want to be here permanently. Then we have country favorites and non-favorites. The nonfavorites are China, India, and the Philippines, which have the longest wait times of any category we have, and why some Chinese, who want to escape a totalitarian regime, are "sneaking" across the border to be with family like it was in 1873 when that act was passed. Currently, it takes a year to get the paperwork by USCIS approved. Then it takes anywhere from 6 months to 18 months, depending on the country, to get the interview at the state department, and more forms to fill out, medical under certain visas, get approved, and then the person is allowed to come here. And that is for family or work visas. And with work visas, you have the DOL to contend with and get their approval. And if the company wants this expedited, then that is an additional cost, now $2500 and going up, for each application, along with anywhere from $1500 to $7,000 in legal fees depending on which type of work visa the company wants to apply for. What we need is a legal immigration overhaul, similar to the 1965 immigration act, to help alieve some of the EWI for those who are coming here for economic opportunities. That is why I like the Blue Card for all worker visas that are not highly specialized. I also think the H-1b needs to be modified from a per employer basis to a per industry basis with those highly qualified skills. And we need to rethink how we view education in the immigration narrative. We have immigrants who are highly qualified based on work experience, but we don't recognize their degrees. This is especially true from the Phillippines for those who are nurses or teachers, who speak English, and have the experience that most RNs wish they had. But that is my experience and yes immigrants still do add value to this country.
     
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    Oh that is funny! You can't get away with denying that one. It was on television and shown during one of the debates.
     
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    maybe faux news, cause it's definitly fake news
     
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    As someone who has ridden a bicycle most of my entire life for transportation as well as having started riding a motorcycle for about a year now in addition to driving a regular vehicle, I know the biggest threat to my daily existence is idiots behind the wheel.

    And I'm not just talking about the number of people that get pissed off and decide to use their vehicle as a weapon I'm talking about the legions of morons that are driving distracted every single day, everywhere they go.

    If I'm not extra careful there's a close call probably once a day. Yet no one points a gun at me everyday, in fact no one has ever pointed a gun at me.

    But you have distracted morons piloting 3,000 lb bullets everywhere you go
     
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    I don't care about your political disagreements with Rush Limbaugh I never even factored that into whether or not addiction is a mental illness.


    I would say less because you use the phrase like chemical imbalance instead of a phrase like neurological disorder. A chemical imbalance like not having enough gaba or having too much can cause Parkinson's or Huntington's disease.

    disagreement especially with big headedness isn't denial.
    I don't think you have any background in psychology or mental illness so you're not really fit to make these sort of assumptions if you did have any backgrounds you would try and diagnose over the internet.
     
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    To help you both out here is the actual question that was asked…

    "Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants."

    Continue with your argument.
     
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    All you can do is laugh. It really hurts your credibility when you are presented with documentation and still deny the facts on a very simple black and white event. Did it happen or not? The film shows it happened.

    I dare say that if any Democrat presidential candidate had kept his or her hand down, that candidate would have been instantly dead in the water.
     
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    I don't even have to read the link or go back and follow the conversation to know you're talking about where every Democrat on the debate stage raise their hand for free healthcare for illegal immigrants.

    It was discussed extensively here at the time and that person was a member so has no excuse to pretend they don't know what happened
     
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    Always a good thing to do when they say something from a news source they don't agree with is fake news and find it from a news source they do agree with.

    Then you can point and laugh at them for being reality deniers.
     
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    So is all news fake or just news that makes the Democrats look dishonest?

    The former will at least be logically consistent consider theory the latter would be partisan hackery.

    So what are you?
     
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    Denial is not just a river in Africa.
     
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    "Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants."
     
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    [QUOTE="Daniel Light, post: 1074111313, member: 68016"...freaking out about transgenders....[/QUOTE]
    WTH Headline Of The Day

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    'Nobody likes getting punched in the balls... especially if you're a woman...'

    Makes sense. Estrogen makes one more sensitive to pain. And no, I don't feel safe now.
     

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