20th Anniversary of the Invasion of Iraq

When both the democrats and republicans agree on something, look out! It means there are huge profits to be made, and everyone wants in on the action, and to hell with the toll it will have on military families. They only play as opponents on TV. When the cash starts flowing, they are very good at getting along. Eisenhower was right about the MIC.

 

The alternative being what at the time? Eisenhower also spoke of the importance of the MIC and how vital it was to our and the world's security. You should read his entire speech.

 

Yeah, I was aware of that.

I think he was also connected to the electrical/tech company (forget the name) that had the contract to upgrade the towers. That company had 24/7 access to all of the elevator shafts and mechanical systems in the building for the 2 year period leading up to 9/11. That is how they were able to wire both buildings - and building 7 of course.

You wanna see a perfect, controlled demolition?? Building 7, straight down into her own footprint. As demolishions go - smooth as butter.

 

Here this one is better... shows all the angles.



Gee Wally, do ya think a single beam giving way can do all that??

I don't know Beav, the government said so, so it must be true

 

not invade Iraq? The premise for the invasion was made up by politicians and oligarchs, so…

 

20 years as an infantryman with 4 years in Iraq, and yup, the government is corrupt as ****. Both sides of the aisle. Really, the aisle is just an illusion we people keep falling for.

 

Your alternative for removing Saddam and the threat he posed you specious assertions it was made up notwithstanding.

 

Many did not forgot. They purposefully and consciously wiped their memory clean.

I appreciate the factual specificity.

 

He was a threat during the first gulf war, for sure. He was not a threat when we invaded the second time. The invasion of Iraq was about power projection and profit. The supposed threat that Saddam posed was just the narrative that we all fell for. I’ll admit, I fell for it hook line and sinker at the time, how he was connected to 9/11, WMD, etc. It was all BS made up by oligarchs and supported by greedy politicians.
For my part, I tried my best to help the Iraqi people I interacted with. But we betrayed them even at a local level multiple times, and overall I think they would have been much better off if we had never invaded in the first place. Certainly ISIS and other extremists would not have emerged if Saddam was left in power. I am under mo illusion that Saddam was a benevolent leader, but few world leaders are. We would have intervened in places like Myanmar if removing bad leadership was our real motivator.

 

Yes he was a threat as I have CLEARLY cited by the Clinton administration and the ISG findings. The real threat he posed was with the sanctions lifted and inspection ended, which he was about to achieve with the bribery using the oil for food money, he would within months reconstituted his WMD arsenals and engage in his plans to support worldwide terrorism against western states and threats to his own people and the region and the world. ISIS was just a revamping of Al Quaida and other terrorist. It didn't matter if it was them or some other terrorist group.

And there was NO assertion by the Bush administration that Saddam was tied in anyway to the 9/11 attack, that is a leftwing canard to excuse their working against or efforts once they saw the political damage they were going to suffer by a successful war against Saddam.

 

Bahaha, if you believe a word that comes from the Clintons, of all people, I have a bridge to sell you.

and political damage for a successful war? What are you talking about? If the war was going to be successful, that would have helped them, since they supported going to war.

 

exactly, those two evil clowns are the worst as well, imagine trusting a word that comes out of their mouth. Also read that bill is directly responsible for the murder of dozens of us citizens.

Killing your own ppl, USA should have been invaded by NATO for that one

 

Unfortunately I think things will deteriorate to the point where troops are on the ground here in the U.S.

Their target will be us, conservatives, "transphobes", Christians, et al.

I think we're still on pace for 2030ish.

 

That's why we need a European army separate from USA, so we can invade in order to help out USA citizens in the event that they are being murdered by the government.

 

So all those people in all those quotes I cited were all lying and the Dems and Reps and the UK and all the other countries were all in this big global scheme? Why? Yes once the Dems saw the boost Bush and the Reps were getting they turned against our efforts and worked to undermine or efforts and the support for those efforts giving encouragement to our enemies to continue their war against us and the MSM was happy to assist and thus the narrative became ONLY about ready to go WMD and Bush LIED in spite of the fact he was saying exactly what the Clinton administration had said about Saddam. They even made up the part about Bush claiming Saddam had a hand in the 9/11 attack.

And they were correct. Saddam could not be allowed to remain in power any longer.

 

yes. We've told you a million times, now you're just going round in circles. Politicians lie, any politician that tells the truth DOES NOT LAST LONG IN POLITICS. Politics is all about keeping the 1% wealthy beyond belief while keeping the masses impoverished. Now that capitalism is dying, that poverty is coming back home, since capitalism in its prime is purely about exporting poverty.

 

So one big conspiracy and Saddam never did gas his own people, invade other countries, try to assassinate our President, aid and support terrorism against western states, kick out inspectors, hide prescribed materials from inspection. All those things for which evidence we had. It was all fake?

And you have something to back it all up or just conspiracy theories?

 

USA gassed its own ppl, invades other countries, ACTUALLY ASSASSINATES other political leaders, aids and supports terrorists, jail's whistleblowers, uses nuclear weapons on other nations, tortures dissidents, enslaved Jews for centuries etc etc.

Give me one reason why the world shouldn't invade USA?

 

Is "globalism" a conspiracy??

Everything to do about all of these limited-regional-proxy-police action wars has been about "globalism".

The UN, NATO, Multi-national defense forces, etc... Korea, Vietnam, Gladio, Iraq, Afghanistan, et al. It's all about globalism.

So the questions beg - what is globalism, who is pushing it, and how is it achieved??

Sound "conspiratorial" yet?? World government won't build itself

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To build that "... world as dreamed of by Karl Marx" the dreamers need war, economic upheaval, the destruction of national sovereignty, and crisis, crisis, crisis....

Does that sound "conspiratorial"??

Sounds like Tuesday to me.

 

Why not? Because Halliburton needed more money and we needed a forward base in the region? Haven’t you guys learned anything? Yes, every one of those sorry ****s was lying. And the republicans were lying. Because they are all out for themselves and their oligarch warlords. Democrat and republican politicians are equally pathetic piles of excrement that lie, cheat, steal, and divide, as long as they can get away with it. And people are STILL falling for their bullshit! People still think there is some difference between the two parties. Some people never learn. It’s all a ****ing illusion.

 

Because of the reasons I have already stated and cited try addressing them.

 

Is "globalism" some pejorative?

 

Not all Dems, There were definitely Warhawks in the Democratic party at that time. And they really could not say "no" either even though they were skeptical of the intelligence. But the point is you really can't blame one side or the other. And it was a different time them. We were still seething from the 9/11 attack. I wanted to wait before we invaded, like 2005 or 2006 or so before we invaded. We should have gotten OBL then since he was in the tora bora region and he was generally cut off from Pakistan and ISI in those days.

 

And yet, you still cite antisemitic conpsiracy theories with Soros, Rothschild, and now a Bush Administration official who was definitely Jewish.

 

The poster you are replying to is using the "sovereign citizen" mythos with globalism, which is synonymous with communism which is synonymous with "elitism."