Avdiivka, Longtime Stronghold for Ukraine, Falls to Russians

It's not me sending arms there, that's you broski.

Hurry along now..

 

"Literature graduate"

I guess Rosetta Stone has its merits.....

 

If you mean the your vs you're thingy? Yes I know, I do it all the time. It's just a bad habit I've fallen into when I rush and otherwise watch out for. So sue me

 

Right....that's why you won't go there...orcs and Javelins don't mix.

 

Try your best in future.

 

So you're there then.

Interesting.

 

No...I'm not...sorry to disappoint.

 

Right but you want to continue the death and suffering by fueling the fire. Smh

 

All Dwarfstan has to do is crawl back on his side of the fence.....that's how this fiasco started.

 

It started with CIA coup in Donbass but you know this

 

No....it didn't start with a CIA "coup" in Donbas.

What started in Donbas....in 2014....was Strelkov/Girkin rode into town...tried rounding up a few thousand volunteers....but nobody was buying it....so he and his cement heads started busting $hit up.....fast forward 10 years ...and you have this $hitshow.

That's how it started.

 

2014, CIA coup, Ukraine/

 

The rest of Ukraine isn't going to be in NATO.

 

Yeah?....you know this how?




Finland/Sweden weren't supposed to be in NATO either.

 

Then it doesn't matter about the money since if I understand this post neither the US or the EU has a lot of actually beans and bullets to send to Ukraine; we just can't produce it quickly enough.

 

I'm just hoping the US isn't as stupid as it's current foreign policy indicates. Although it has lived down to my expectations.

Ukraine in NATO would result in a renewed cold war, with permanent high tensions in the same way that Canada or Mexico joining the Warsaw Pact during the cold war would have escalated things. We almost went to war over Cuban missiles.

For a payoff of exactly zero.

Not being an American I know you don't care about the country other than as a means to manipulate to fulfill your foreign policy ambitions and hurt your tribal enemies, but I absolutely don't want to have to live one minute to midnight when there is zero gain to the US and maximum risk.

That's how I know you're not American. Only a traitor or foreigner would want to stir up that sort of stupidity for no gain (to us), and I don't think you are a traitor. I think you are very loyal to your motherland, that's just not America.

 

The rest of "the ukraine" won't exist if they keep hitching their wagon to NATO.

The best thing that could happen out of this CIA-caused war is if all their nazis are terminated and NATO terminates as well (or at least the US leaves it).

 

Well if NATO delivers us a war with Russia that will likely lead to the end of NATO...and Russia and the United States.

 

NATO is losing in "the ukraine" as we speak. I doubt the MIC wants to be exposed on a WW3 playing field. The US hasn't won a ground war in over a century and we damn sure aren't going to beat the Russians in one. Neither did Hitler. Neither did Napoleon.

The US can't win.

 

Again it's the logistics. Your consumption rate is limited by your delivery rates. In the case of Ukraine artillery and other basic munitions deliveries were (just) keeping up with consumption because the US was still providing ammo from it's large stockpiles. That's stopped now. The result is Ukraine is no longer getting what it needs to fight effectively. More than manpower this is what's hindering its current efforts.

It's simply a timing issue. The orders for increased production as well as entire new production lines went in last year when the ammo consumption rates became apparent. Production has already increased and the new manufacturing facilities are in the process of opening. The DoD expects to increase production six fold over the next three to four years. All of which means the US has or rather shortly will have the capacity to both sustain Ukraine and grow it's own stockpiles. In the interim it has the capacity now to at least maintain it's prior rate of shell delivery to Ukraine. But it's not because politics is preventing that from happening.

 

Renewed Cold War.....??

Finland,Baltics are all on Russias border?....that was all Russian influenced?

Not being American?.....we've been down this road before Mike....try another angle. But I understand...you try to label anyone who doesn't agree with you.
Zero gain?....really?....all those NATO states have relative peace....Mike?

That's how you know I'm not American?....funny Mike...you're in Florida...coincidentally numerous other posters claim to be from Florida here Mike...same as New York State....those two states have large Russian emigres?...are you one of those Mike...you tell me? I don't see you condemning the consortium much here....which is odd.

Those who accuse usually have the most to hide? Don't you think.

 

NATO isn't fighting in Ukraine, Billy, so it can't very well be losing.

If it ever does come to a ground war against the Z Axis, which is highly unlikely as long as Putler is stopped in Ukraine by the Ukrainians, then victory will first have to be defined before we can talk about winning or losing the war. The end result would mainly be lots more dead people because Putler lost his marbles and wanted to sacrifice however many millions just to try and save his own life, rather like Hitler before him.

 

D, if you can't grasp what is happening, there is no need for a discussion. Rolling in with the DEI blue-haired fat asses won't help Banderastan.

 

Did you know that Girkin suicided/'suicided' 5 days ago? Lol

 

Oh good, then we can sell our artillery shells to Ukraine then rather than simply giving it away.