Anti-vaxxers crumble as every prediction fails to come true

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  1. Betamax101

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    Repeating your claim doesn't suddenly make it fact. I just pointed you to a thread showing where your "documented excess death spikes" are deceptively cherry-picked. The fact that these same spikes do occur, but BEFORE rollout in many countries, or much later in others proves that the vaccination cannot possibly BE the causation. Conspiracy theorists deliberately look for ones that ONLY show what appears to be a spike from vaccines, while they discard the ones that don't.

    How can you not understand that? Explained here!
     
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    My statement is fact.
     
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    Nope. Kindly stop quoting my posts if you are going to avoid answering the damn things!

    Either answer properly, or go to the other thread and show your "fact". Hopefully a bit of bolding may help.
     
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    The data and model indications are upthread. You are free to ignore it and its implications.
     
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    Thank you, I exercise that right to ignore it. Feel free to ignore the numerous posts refuting it!
     
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    Surely you know the following is true…
    First, the authorities are admitting that the independent scientists, the relatively few who are not on the payrolls of Big Pharma and its medical industry vassals, are vindicated. The independent scientists said without hesitation that the mRNA “vaccines” would have the effects that have now been acknowledged by a corrupt medical establishment.

    Second, there are large numbers of scientists, doctors, and presstitutes who will sell out truth for money, such as those who describe people dropping dead on a daily basis as “rare” when it it happening all over the vaccinated world. Once upon a time long time ago science was funded by university budgets. Now science is funded by outside interests with agendas and is thoroughly corrupted.

    Third, the entirety of the Western media, incompetent in every hard subject, is content to be fed the approved narrative and regurgitates it to the population that sits in front of the TV screen, listens to NPA or reads the NY times.

    The result is a population devoid of accurate and true information and incapable of realizing it.
     
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    Any takers?
    Surely you know it isn't. Conspiracy garbage.
    But thankfully we have an army of "truth-seeking" conspiracy theorists, they alone are able to see what is accurate!? Meh!
    The real truth is that conspiracy misinformation makes a total mockery of real world data, misrepresents it, distorts it and falsely creates confusion where there is none.
     
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    Lol. You should know by now never trust the establishment. They’re liars.
     
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    Sure they are and all the crazy copycat conspiracy batshit websites are all stalwarts of the "truf".
    So no takers on that slam dunk observation. Figures.
     
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    Another thread derailing. Why post that in THIS tread?
    I would say it's a little of both. There definitely were instances where it appeared to have some effect, but medical trials that have gone into more depth suggest it didn't. That's science for you. Research, more research and more research. It's not some foolish conspiracy where it was deliberately withheld to let people die, or some medical negligence that refused to use it! Here are some research results (and yes I am aware that there are others suggesting it is a benefit).

    Effect of Early Treatment with Ivermectin among Patients with Covid-19 | NEJM
    "We conducted a double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled, adaptive platform trial involving symptomatic SARS-CoV-2–positive adults recruited from 12 public health clinics in Brazil. Patients who had had symptoms of Covid-19 for up to 7 days and had at least one risk factor for disease progression were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (400 μg per kilogram of body weight) once daily for 3 days or placebo. "

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    RESULTS
    A total of 3515 patients were randomly assigned to receive ivermectin (679 patients), placebo (679), or another intervention (2157). Overall, 100 patients (14.7%) in the ivermectin group had a primary-outcome event, as compared with 111 (16.3%) in the placebo group (relative risk, 0.90; 95% Bayesian credible interval, 0.70 to 1.16). Of the 211 primary-outcome events, 171 (81.0%) were hospital admissions. "

    "CONCLUSIONS
    Treatment with ivermectin did not result in a lower incidence of medical admission to a hospital due to progression of Covid-19
    or of prolonged emergency department observation among outpatients with an early diagnosis of Covid-19. (Funded by FastGrants and the Rainwater Charitable Foundation; TOGETHER ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04727424. opens in new tab.)"

    Effect of Higher-Dose Ivermectin for 6 Days vs Placebo on Time to Sustained Recovery in Outpatients With COVID-19: A Randomized Clinical Trial | Clinical Pharmacy and Pharmacology | JAMA | JAMA Network
    "Question Does ivermectin, with a maximum targeted dose of 600 μg/kg daily for 6 days, compared with placebo, shorten symptom duration among adult (≥30 years) outpatients with symptomatic mild to moderate COVID-19?

    Findings In this double-blind, randomized, placebo-controlled platform trial including 1206 US adults with COVID-19 during February 2022 to July 2022, the median time to sustained recovery was 11 days in the ivermectin group and 11 days in the placebo group. In this largely vaccinated (84%) population, the posterior probability that ivermectin reduced symptom duration by more than 1 day was less than 0.1%.

    Meaning These findings do not support the use of ivermectin among outpatients with COVID-19."

    MORU study shows ivermectin not effective treatment against COVID — Nuffield Department of Medicine (ox.ac.uk)
    "Researchers at NDM's Mahidol Oxford Tropical Medicine Research Unit found that high doses of the drug ivermectin, controversially recommended by some high-profile political and media figures during the COVID-19 pandemic, are ineffective at treating the COVID-19 virus."
     
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    Why is a 20 year old male in good health and at extremely low risk to complications from Covid being vaccinated?

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/healt...ported-following-covid-19-vaccination-5607372

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10263038/#:~:text=Conclusion:,SARS-CoV-2).
     
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    The COVID vaccines not only failed miserably, they never were properly tested before being forced on the people. It was all a scam that greatly profited big pharma and by extension the two crime families in the imperial capital on the Potomac.

    As someone well informed on the corrupt and criminal history of big pharma, I never once considered taking the clot shot. To my surprise, most of my extended family took the shots over my objections. Some even had their children infected.
     
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    Exactly. I avoid pharma products and live a healthy live. I have friends 80 and 90 years old that refused the vaccine. They caught covid and were just fine.
     
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    My doctor suggested I take the shot, when it all started. I was surprised he would do this to me, knowing I refuse all big pharma’s ****. I immediately fired his dumb ass.
     
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    I understand the sick and frail considering this product. There is no excuse for forcing it on healthy people.
     
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    Yet that is exactly what our government, military, and most private companies and universities did. There should be criminal and civil actions taken against all organizations who forced people to take the vax or lose their jobs or access to education. This along with the dissolving all big pharma companies involved in making the vaccine. If only!
     
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    So, your opinion is--and this is fair to say--an otherwise healthy 20-year-old should not get vaccinated against covid? Would you still so advise if an athlete wanted to take a covid shot before an Olympic competition in order to boost immunity for the short time covid vaccines protect against contracting covid? Would you so advise a traveler not to get vaccinated before their trip?
     

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