You don't know anything about the new Mustang, do you. (That is not a question.) A new Boss 302 is FASTER around the 'Ring than an M3.
No, the Z/28's 302 was an iron block with iron heads (though the intake was aluminum). The only aluminum engines in Camaros before 1998 was the ZL-1 427 installed in 67 Camaros in 1969.
I'm probably wrong.But the top end was aluminum {intake,pistons} on acount a short stroke engine has to rev a lot higher and quicker. H.P. estimates ranged from 300- 500.
Sheesh did this turn into a testosterone festival or what. Tell you what boys, when your fancy bimmers, turbo-charged rally cars and souped up hot rods end up in a ditch after the first serious snowfall...I'll just mosey along and if I'm in the neighborhood, tow your sorry butts out of trouble...no charge.
I guess you weren't payin attention.An EVO is an ALL Weather car. It excels in the snow.But the stock Tires { Advan Yokohama } aren't fit for cold.Their a really expensive tire that does well on the track and in summer.They last around 10,ooo miles.That's the beauty about an Evo. An Evo ISN'T a Sports Car per se.It's a Sport Compact.I was serioulsy considering a Honda S2ooo which is a mid engine wonder.Has great handling,steering { So does a Mini Cooper } but has no room and not exactly fast.Great shifting however.The Evo tends to stick going into 2nd gear. 2nd gear is the test of all tests.Especially on a motorcycle.
the only good thing ford makes that doesn't break down in the first year of ownership is their trucks that is all also GM has better quality cars because the workers are paid good by the unions, that is american idealism
agreed evo is practical for a daily driver sports car, so is the subura wrx they have the all wheel drive for the snow
Meh, I've got a Tahoe, 5.7 liter Vortech, 4x4 (also known as a Jeep/Hummer/Bronco/Expedition recovery vehicle )... unstoppable in the snow! I look forward to winter when I can pass idiots in their blinged out pimpmobiles, up ridiculous grade hills while flinging massive rooster tails all over their crap boxes with 20" rims.
Can't tell you how many "all weather" cars I've seen in the ditch...for one thing they don't have the clearance. I'm talking roads untouched by snow plows. This is going to do well in serious snowfall?... Two words to that... Good luck
No the Ford Mustang is great car.It's just NOT the performance car Americans have been conned to believe.Just like the New Camaro. It's awesome Looking.But it's a piece of crap. Now the CTS-V is a car I'd seriously think of buying.In fact I wanted one.But they couldn't come through with their very limited stick shift model. I'd also like to see more about the discontinued Cadillac XLR which had an exotic tuned suspension.
Which makes perfect sense.Even though the EVO is good in snow, it's sits too low.I shutter to think what would happen if I started running over large chunks of hard ice left by tractor-trailers. But then I don't understand and never have the ground clearance of the Corvette.The thing sits so low,I can't see them even managing a speed bump.Actually an EVO is not recommened as a daily commute. But that is what I use.I also have me Motorcycles for good weather. If the weather gets too bad for driving,I can always go to Smarty's bar and have a Tizzy.I mean,walk to Smarty's Oasis bar and grilled.
Oh yeah, my 540i is not a car in any sort of bad weather...even rain is pretty bad, if it snows is almost un-driveable unless you go 10mph. Infact if I so much as tap the gas, my back blows out and starts going everywhere (mostly due to my tremendous amounts of torque output from my 4.4 V. Therefore, during the winter when/if the roads are VERY bad, then I get rides from friends, or borrow my grandma's FWD volvo which is pretty manageable in bad conditions. I conclude that RWD is not good on snow...
no but many don't go out after a big snowfall and after road treatment all wheel drive or front wheel drive foreign sport cars fair better than rear wheel drive american sport cars on slippery roads
does that bmw have the traction control option? it only allows the car to go 10-15 no matter how hard the gas pedal is pressed and applies brakes intermittenly on all the tire
I'd probably trade in my EVO for a Ford Focus RS.But they won't make is stateside.They're another awesome little car. I had a a Ford XR-1 and it was great in the winter.Front wheel drive does great.In Fact the standard American pickup truck is no good on snow.I had 2 pickups and they both sucked Royal in winter. My 1977 Z-28 was another piece of crap in snow.
'My' 530i (which has traction control, and all the other gubbins,) does very well in the light snow and black ice that the Blue Mountains get every winter. (But I do back off a bit when the ice warning starts flashing on the computer screen.) I would not try to drive it in deep snow, because it simply does not have the ground clearance, but in light snow and on icy roads it is very controllable. It does not have the high torque at low revs that the 4.4 litre BMW V8 has, so it does not kick the back out when you accellerate hard. It is a quite weird feeling on really slippery roads, as you can feel the engine cutting back and transferring power, even though you are on a constant throttle setting. But just on wet roads, it is totally brill. I love zooming past all those SUVs teetering cautiously down the twisting and wet mountain roads.
Rear wheel no matter what gimmickry of traction control is unsafe and sparse.Front wheel is an absolute necessity.Front wheel only cars do excellent in snow.My proof rear wheel is dangerous.I've owned 3 pickup trucks. Well actually 4,but the Mazda I kept for about a week.It was a lemon. I demanded my money back.I had a GMC Sierra { kinda the hot version } a Dodge SLC { Nice interior } and inherited my Dad's Ford F-150. Every one of those pickups were useless when it snowed.Even with heavy sand bags in the truck bed,they didn't grip the road in snow.They fishtail and just spin the rear tires.Forget about getting up a hilly driveway. Worthless.Coming from Cleveland where there's major snow,as a kid every family had what was called Snow Tires.The ones with the little metal spikes in the rubber.That was way before even front wheel cars. Then if you wanted better traction some folk used chains on the rear wheels.On the Rear wheels.Because the steering axle is of no value in a rear drive vehicle.Chains offer 100% better traction and halv the stopping distance. I don't buy for a second any Rear Wheel cars claims when using Traction control.Maybe ABS will improve but not ability to get traction. It's myth.Kinda like a Corvette and Positraction.
hmmm I own a S197 Stang pre 2011 ie: 2005-2010 you had the dog 4.0 six as the base engine and the 3 valve modular 4.6 the 4.0 could be made peppy by modifying the tune and replacing the muffler. The 4.6 if manny tranny did well with a tune modification, new axle backs and a cold air intake. if you are talking handling and want to get extreme then lower it 1 1/2 inches, replace the sway bars, panhard and lower control arms. Despite having a solid rear axle, with a few mods it handles quite well Now, 2011 saw radical changes and I would even consider the new six banger. It is a fine balance. The 5.0 is just awesome
So, your proof that every Mercedes, BMW, Jaguar, Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Bentley, etc. is useless on slippery roads, consists of the fact that you have owned three pickup trucks equipped with live rear axles and cart springs??? Have you ever even driven a halfway decent European thoroughbred car? I am making no claims about deep snow, but to dismiss highly developed drive and suspensory systems as useless on icy and wet roads is not intelligent. Do you think Europe does not suffer rain and ice in the winter? I suspect we may be discussing two entirely different circumstances. You are discussing traction in deep snow, I am talking about negotiating wet and icy roads at a reasonably brisk pace.
Well I'm not sure, but if the roads are even moderately icy or snow...its not even the ground clearence, its simply the zero traction. I do put on winter tires during winter to replace my summer tires, but from personal experience, it really does not help much. The winter tires however help a great deal if the roads are wet, because I don't hydroplane as easily. Either way...maybe I'm just to scared or something, but from my experiences...during the winter leave your RWD's at home and use SUV's or FWD. Also, sometimes I honestly wish I had the 530i. It is so much more reliable and perfected. BMW's 4.4 and 5L V8's from the later 90's to early 2000's were lemons in terms of reliability...truely amazing and powerful engines, but sucked in reliability. On the other hand, the in-line six's were some of the best they ever made.
