How fast can skeptics prove that most of Flight 93 buried?

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  1. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    (*)(*)(*)(*) you. Watch the video.

    You're saying the plane wasn't buried. He is saying it is. One of you is lying. He most certainly is calling you a liar. So either prove he is lying or admit you're lying.

    You can't even handle one witness without stepping all over yourself. Finish with this one and we will move on.
     
  2. Hannibal

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    Over 1,100 people from 74 agencies and organizations worked at the scene. Including civilian volunteers, many of whom joined an organized effort to collect aircraft parts, the number of crash scene workers reaches well over 1,500.

    On 9/11 alone, these included: • 8 Police Departments • 7 EMS Services • 8 Fire Departments • 10 Emergency Management Agencies • NTSB • ATF • FBI • CISM • Red Cross • United Airlines

    Volunteer first responders on 9/11 included:

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company, Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company, Central City Fire Department, Berlin Fire Department, Friedens Volunteer Fire Department, Listie Volunteer Fire Company, Somerset Volunteer Fire Department, Somerset Ambulance Association, Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department, and the Hooversville Rescue Squad.

    Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders
    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560.
    Terry Schaffer, Chief; Rick King, Ass't Chief

    Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101
     
  3. suede

    suede Banned

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    Just did, all 5:21 of it. Didn't see where he said he was in the hole. Timestamp?

    [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkYOk3zxf54"]9/11 : The Shanksville Files Vol II : Wally Miller [preview] - YouTube[/ame]
     
  4. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    He was showing pictures of the hole. He was describing the dimensions. Are you seriously so daft that you're going to pretend his testimony doesn't count because he doesn't explicitly say "I was in the hole"? :lol:

    So prove he was lying. He goes into great detail as to what he saw. It all directly refutes your claims.

    Go ahead. We're waiting. Or are you going to come up with another lameassed excuse? :lol:
     
  5. suede

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    You know, I want to get the opinions of your fellow skeptics on this one before we move on.

    Hannibal?
    NAB?
    DDave?
    Fangbeer?
    candycorn?
    skeptics I left out?
     
  6. NAB

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    My opinion is that your theory that the plane was planted is full of crap, and you've yet to produce one shred of evidence in defense of said theory.
     
  7. Patriot911

    Patriot911 New Member Past Donor

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    And come up with yet another excuse wins! :lol:

    Still can't show proof Wally Miller is lying? Didn't think so. You lose.
     
  8. Hannibal

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    My opinion is that UA93 was highjacked by religious extremists and crashed near Shanksville, PA. There were no survivors.
     
  9. suede

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    Hannibal?
    NAB?
    DDave?
    Fangbeer?
    candycorn?
    skeptics I left out?

    Do you guys think from Miller's interview that Miller was in the hole as Patriot911 seems to think?
     
  10. Hannibal

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    Given the sheer amount of work that Miller did on the scene, it would be hard to believe he wasn't in the hole many times.

    You really should listen to what he's saying, rather than trying to come up with more excuses.
     
  11. suede

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    So what did he say in that video that leads you to think "it would be hard to believe he wasn't in the hole many times"?

    Oh and btw, any news articles reporting that Miller was ever in the hole once?
     
  12. Hannibal

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    Go back and read my response more carefully, unless you are intentionally trying to misrepresent what I'm stating.
     
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    Not trying to do that. How did I misrepresent that you said "it would be hard to believe he wasn't in the hole many times"? I copied and pasted it exactly.

    Oh and let me make sure you understood my question:

    "Do you guys think from Miller's interview that Miller was in the hole as Patriot911 seems to think? "
     
  14. Hannibal

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    Try posting my entire sentence, instead of cherry picking. (Hint: It starts with the word "given" and ends with the period.)

    Please provide the time stamp in that video where Miller says he wasn't in the hole.
     
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    Patriot911,

    Why don't you go ahead and post some of those other "numerous" plane buried witnesses. Even *if* Miller turns out to be one, I still want to see these others for everyone's benefit.
     
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    :omg:

    Um, OK: 0:00 -->-->-->-- 5:21
     
  17. Hannibal

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    Volunteer first responders on 9/11 included:

    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Company, Stoystown Volunteer Fire Company, Central City Fire Department, Berlin Fire Department, Friedens Volunteer Fire Department, Listie Volunteer Fire Company, Somerset Volunteer Fire Department, Somerset Ambulance Association, Hooversville Volunteer Fire Department, and the Hooversville Rescue Squad.

    Contact information for some flight 93 crash scene responders
    Shanksville Volunteer Fire Co, Shanksville, PA 15560.
    Terry Schaffer, Chief; Rick King, Ass't Chief

    Somerset County Emergency Services 100 East Union Street, Somerset, PA 15501

    Westmoreland County Dept. of Emergency Management 12 Court House Square Greensburg, PA 15601

    Pennsylvania Emergency Management Agency Harrisburg, PA 17101

    Paul Sledzik, Curator Armed Forces Institute of Pathology National Museum of Health and Medicine
    Leader of flight 93 Disaster Mortuary (Team DMORT)
    Email: sledzik@email.afip.osd.mil

    Dr. Dennis C. Dirkmaat, Chief Scientific Advisor to Somerset County Coroner's office in the flight 93 investigation; Director, Applied Forensic Sciences Department, Mercyhurst College, 501 E. 38th St. Erie, PA 16546 Email: dirkmaat@mercyhurst.edu

    DMORT Forensics January, 2002 Newsletter
    Disaster Mortuary Team Main office: 1-800-USA-NDMS, ext. 205
    DMORT Region 3 office (includes Pennsylvania) 410-676-4600

    Feel free to contact any of them and ask directly.
     
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    Are there any news reports that said Miller was ever in the hole?
     
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    I watched all of that footage. Nowhere in there does he say "I wasn't in the hole."

    By your logic, that must mean he was.
     
  20. Hannibal

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    Are there any that say he wasn't?
     
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    Please answer my question first.
     
  22. Hannibal

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    My question is exactly as relevant as yours.
     
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    15 pages and skeptics still haven't proved most of Flight 93 had buried. Embarrassing.
     
  24. suede

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    Your logical fallacy question is exactly as relevant as my non-logical fallacy question?!!

    Tooooooo funny!!!!!!!!!! :-D
     
  25. Hannibal

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    Months and months and suede can't provide any evidence that any of UA93 was planted. Pathetic.

    The lesson here is: don't believe what strange men in bars try to sell you.
     
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