Israel; Iran has no bomb program.

America has never once....NOT ONCE....said that they were going to wipe Iran off the face of the map. NOT ONCE. It's not MY view, IRAN HAS threatened to wipe at least one country off the map. That's not my opinion. America would attack their nuclear facilities and only the facilities.

So I suppose you would have been the same person that appeased Nazi Germany when they were making threats? I mean with your logic it would have been wrong to have taken out their military facilities? Imagine what course history would have taken if that had happened! There are many other analogies that can make your logic crumble.

You can insult me, say that what I'm saying is nonsense but even though you don't know it and won't ever admit it my country will be saving your butt in the long run so you can still come here and make quick replies to my posts.

 

You are right Belrus. Now we can include the other half of this style of proproganda.

America will attack iran for freedom and democracy, right?

 

It looks like Israel and America will have to murder very many innocent civilians if they really think that an attack is the best means of wasting American tax dollars for political purposes.

 

Ok so the IAEA doesnt make a threat assessment, thats done by the UNSC, a group of nations with intense vested interests in the region in question.

Whether or not you advocate attack or not, it is your argument here is it not that the decisions of both the IAEA and the UNSC have some moral force because they are in charge of these matters. Indeed your argument on their behalf carries more force because its made by them.

This is doubtful to many many people. However, the opinion about Irans track record is highly one sided in the West and takes no account of the simple fact Irans track record is rather tame.

The fact is, if indeed Iran is only making preparations for the possibility of a need for it then the jig is up already. Theyll have it very quickly if forced to.

Yes, this is a good comment but its exactly where you rest that is troubling. For example, you state that Iran must be subject to punishment for being in violation of a treaty. Yet is that actually what it signed up for?

Would anyone sign up to a treaty which stated that if found to be flouting it theyd be subject to other punishments?

Indeed I understand the need for terms but are things like sanctions mentioned in the NPT?

 

Yup. You can thank us later.

Not good enough. Where is a source that says that Israel is planning to attack 22 sites? All that proves is how elaborate and far down the road the Iranian nuclear weapon program is. You said you know of a dozen articles and many threads about it. Give ONE. You can do that right? I'm starting to lose faith that you can.

More of the same old huh? Iranian government/military workers ARE NOT INNOCENT CIVILIANS. PERIOD. But please go ahead and repeat yourself as many times as you want.

 

That's very interesting. Tell me more about why you are totally convinced that it is acceptable to murder politicians (Iranian government) for political purposes. Does this mean that it is perfectly acceptable, in your view, to murder employees of General Electric for political purposes, since it is a "defense contractor"?

It is unique how so many followers of Israel seem to be so very eager to legalize terrorism.

 

Actually the Korean war gave freedom and democracy to South Korea. The invasions of Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya did give freedom and democracy to those countries. That their barbaric uneducated Islam-brainwashed population is still stuck in the 7th century and completely unable to take advantage of this unique opportunity is a different story. But America's attacks do undoubtedly give the population a shot at freedom and democracy. Some peoples put it to good use (South Koreans) others blow it.

Ironically the Israeli attack on the Iraqi Osirak reactor ended up giving freedom (perhaps not democracy) to Kuwait of all places. Do you have any doubt whatsoever that Kuwait would be the smallest Iraqi province today if it was not for the Israeli raid? And chances are Saddam would have murdered Iraqi Kurdish population in far greater numbers too if he had a nuclear umbrella to protect his regime.

 

The IAEA statute reads :

So here, the Iranians, if theyve read the statute, know any noncompliance issues and theyre going to be answering to the UNSC.As weve covered , if the noncompliance is regarded as a threat by the UNSC based on the information furnished by the IAEA and the context of the situation,the UN has the right to punish them,nonmilitarily....per their charter, which we also must assume the Iranians have read,right?

Who knows if the Iranians asked about the "what ifs" before they signed on? Perhaps originally civilian nuclear energy was all they were after and simply wanted the significant benefits of being able to share in nuclear states expertise and investments for thier own benefit. In other words such scenarios didnt concern them at the time. Regardless, theyve found out the hard way if they didnt discuss what might happen if a leap to weaponiztion was discovered ,depsite their best efforts to obfuscate it.

Who knows whats in their private subsudiary arrangements and additional protocol? Not me. But its irrelevant..both of the those undoubtedly go beyond the broad terms of the NPT and all the mechanisms and authority to take the actions that have been taken are found in the terms of the treaties.

 

What makes you think civilians living close to Iranian nuclear facilities are "innocent"?

 

Don't you know? The UN is only cool when it is ruling against the USA or Israel...

 

Reiterated for effect.

The OP is clearly not interested in accurate representation of the truth. I am finding that most that fly that contrived flag as an avatar have that characteristic.

 

We have seen here on this thread that both
US Defence Secretary Leon Panetta
“Are they trying to develop a nuclear weapon? No.”
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30214.htm

& the best of Israeli Intelligence
"The intelligence assessment Israeli officials will present later this week to Dempsey
indicates that Iran has not yet decided whether to make a nuclear bomb."

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diploma...far-off-from-decision-on-iran-attack-1.407953

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Both have concluded that Iran at present is NOT repeat NOT
.....................in the process of constructing a Nuclear Bomb

Yet still there are those Bloody minded, Paranoids here about
who continue to insist on ramping this disfunctional World
into a Bloody Conflict that may very well spell humanities Doom

For over a decade now, these deeply Disturbed panic stricken sheep
have Insanely insisted that Iran is but months away of hurrying itself
................................. into a Suicidal Nuclear Attack on Tel Avi

Their cultist Fear/Hate mongering INSANITY is unforgivable as
....................................... it endangers all of Humanity

What in God's name is the matter with these people ?

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By way of answer to this question, I offer a quote from the article:

The Eurasian Triple Entente: Touch Iran in a War,
........... You Will Hear Russia and China
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30337.htm

I would heartily recommend the full article lest grave & catastrophic
miscalculations are made as to Russia’s & China’s interests in this regard

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article30337.htm







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Sure, it's appropriate - from the enemy perspective. It's about who will win, and it's about choosing moral sides.

I choose my side, which is the opposite of your side. Good luck in a war against my side - you'll need it.

 

Telling Belecose Rhetoric
Thank You - Your intent stands Gross Naked & EXPOSED before us
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But beware & be aware
There is NO moral stand behind which the War Monger can hide !



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Thank you. You totally understand. Oh their side will definitely need all the luck they can get. The pathetic thing though is that these people don't even probably live nor have ever lived in Iran so they aren't defending something that will directly affect them where as it will affect us in America in one way or another. Thus we actually have something to stand for. These folks just need something to justify their existence or to make them feel like they stand for something in life, or something like that.

 

Fruitcup posts by you aside, one who engages in war over principles can most certainly defend their actions both morally and intellectually.

And - failing that - defend them physically. Which is, after all, the point.

 

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Your Principals are Fabrications - Constructs built on LIEs
& there can be NO morality in the defence of such Principals

You have only the same brand of Filthy LIE that led us into Iraq to do Murder
……………...................................…. & utterly destroy that country & its people

No morality No Intellect - only Blood smeared upon the Perps
........................................... & the people who pay Taxes


I remind you of the Absurdity that you believe, & of a simple Fact
.................that you seem intent on remaining Willfully Ignorant of

................US secretary of Defence & Israeli Intelligence are in agreement
................ http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...-iran-has-no-bomb-program-32.html#post5010581



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Honestly I'm not trying to be a jerk here but how do you have enough time to make your posts so annoying colorful that almost no one wants to read them?

 

I see.

Then you have no moral authority to defend your family, friends and neighbors if I attack you and them.

I do not suppose you can answer that for me?

 

I have no moral authority to attack you -
I have only your empty hypothetical & rather Stupidly veiled threat


You meal out the Absurdity you believe to be your moral authority

You have not attacked me & neither has Iran attacked us
.................................. & neither was Iraq ever a threat to us

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Don't people realise that an attack on Iran could trigger a third world war? If the Zionist in Tel Aviv and Washington want to trigger a third war then they are crazier then I ever thought.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/urbanwarzone/2012/01/25/urban-war-zone-ep-8-war-with-iran-1

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/urbanw...-ep-9-corrupt-leaders-and-crazy-governments-1

 

With whom?

No one seriously believes (other than internet buffoons) that the Chinese and Russians would do more than provide lip service to support Iran in a war.

Iraq had no greater ally than the Russians in 1991 yet the Russians did nothing whatsoever to assist them against the U.S.

 

The Russians have succeeded in preventing hegemonic NATO involvement in Syria without even making a fuss.

 

No decision = no program. No program = take your cruise missiles and shove them up a lying Zionist.