"their hands raping me over and over and over again"

Answer? I`m not answering anything, neither am I obligated to. The topic here is the general cowardice and unmanliness of muslim men, in their treatment of women. Running and attempting to hide behind juvenile distractions, is a blaring statement of ungracious defeat, not fooling anyone.

As I said before, you can`t sensibly wonder at the growing contempt of the west for all things islam, as western people begin to learn more about muslims.

 

Sad but true.

 

What american hospital downtown??? There are no "American " hospitals in Egypt for heaven sakes.

 

"Lara Logan: Life is not about dwelling on the bad"

No it's not so shut up woman, will you for heavens sake?

 

Is that 5 minutes as the crow flies, taxi at 2am, pushbike, bus in peak hour traffic, a casual jog, a brisk walk perhaps??? LOL, you know she'd just been physically assaulted, including sexually, and she was in an ocean of angry people in a foreign city undergoing massive civil revolt, at night in a patriachal muslim city, and did I mention she'd just had the @#$% beaten out of her!? Such unrealistic expectations you use as a validity to blame a rape victim - dont tell me you think she deserved it as well, it would seem the logical next thing for you to say??????????

 

It`s sick that anyone would even think of trying to blame the victim in a case like this. Says a lot for the "mindset" of muslims.

 

Innocent until proven guilty.

Just sayin'...

 

nothing to do with religion here .... first its the muslims that raped her then it's the american sailors or american army men who raped her .... it's good to be careful with those allegations.

also
I'd say to Miss Logan ... if it's too hot for you then get out of the kitchen ...


put up or shut up.... or find another job of course.

 

Check out the one in Zamalek beside the Cairo Tower Downtown then you could check out the one in Heliopolis.

The one I use the DAF is a partner with the Cleveland Clinic

Theres an American for Alex too

http://www.ommahealthcare.com/oasisamerican-hospital.html

 

yes it's very important to be careful with allegations because rape here gets the death penalty and I wonder how many of the people here would be happy to go to the courts on her non evidence and be facing the death sentence !

maybe then they wouldnt be so quick to support a claim by Lara Logan

 

I beleive this person is disingenuous as I get the feeling she is attempting to exploit her medical condition (PTSD) as it is currently in the spotlight regarding returning US military personnel.

 

Funny isnt it. Beaten to within an inch of her life we are told but despite being surrounded by western media personnell directly after her assault no photos or evidence exists of her injuries.

 

Exactly so you don’t know what happened afterwards. You don’t know what her state was, whether she was capable of making such a decision or whether it was the soldiers who she’d been handed over to who decided where she should be taken and how. The most sensible place would have been a hospital not an embassy and by ambulance not by stumbling! Journalists work brings them to where the action is and she had an Egyptian bodyguard and the rest of her crew. Investigative journalism is a very important element of democracy, which is not simply dictatorship by the majority with one man one vote as you think it is.

On my TV screen I saw Egyptian protestors panic when fired on or attacked by the camel brigade and running for cover. We are talking about a US reporter and her crew including a local bodyguard. Journalists are frequently faced with deportation and other such measures when dealing with hostile regimes, so what? You think they should just go home and let the regimes decide what is reported?

 

Not according to Mona Eltahawy:

Assailants in rape cases face sentences ranging from three years to life imprisonment. Marital rape is not illegal in Egypt.

source

However lets see if you have any better luck coming up with the number of rapists executed than you do with the number being convicted on DNA evidence! I guess you don't have the benefit of good investigative journalism and Press TV probably aren't interested in rape in Egypt!

 

Not funny at at all. I'm sure you would like to see photos of her injuries, the more intimate the better however I doubt that's on her road to recovery. Just because they haven't been splashed across the front pages doesn't mean they don't exist. Rest assured, she was hospitalised so her injuries have been documented in some form.

 

By and large that's what Egyptians think and what Egyptian victims do but she isn't Egyptian, are you?

 

Its hardly just a Muslim mindset, there appear to be non Muslims here with that mindset.

 

Let's just say that about Gabrielle Giffords too, yes? Of course - that's exactly what she's doing...now.

 

Apparently so.

I am going to need something called 'evidence' before I believe her.

So far, I have seen/heard little.

As I typed above...innocent until proven guilty.

 

For those that disbelieve I found an interesting article about the Tahrir square in my native newspaper today. It's from a swedish girl with arab origin that currently study in Kairo and take part of these protests. Apparently she suffered a similar thing to this, along with her friend just days ago now that the protesters are back there again. A group of men started pulling on their hairs, groping them and trying to get their pants off.

According to the newspaper none of them reported it because it does no good in this country apparently. Now as for the point of this post is because I found an interesting link in the article. Seems it gotten to such a degree where people even set up a site to report abuses in this city that happens under the protests. 600 in total according to the Swedish article but see for yourself.

http://harassmap.org/

Original article for those who can read it or wish to translate:
http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/dennyaarabvarlden/egypten/article14275712.ab

It doesn't appear to be an isolated incident though perhaps some will argue that someone went through all the trouble and set up an entire site around these things and made several hundred reports on their own in order to make the protesters look bad?

 

I'm not a Muslim, in fact I'm a right wing hardass, and I think she's lying. I think the crowd rushed her moved her around and she got scared. They may have touched her clothes, her hair, etc. But there is no evidence they "raped" her.

 

My thoughts exactly.

And I am not Muslim either.

 

Yes, apparently its endemic. I don't think its very advisable to report it as victims risk even worse sexual assault at the police station with virginity testing and rape! The harassmap.org is mentioned in the article I linked to by Mona Eltahawy.

 

http://thedailynewsegypt.com/human-...assment-incidents-mar-jan-25-anniversary.html

 

Rightwing hardasses are just the people to blame women for getting raped aren't they?

The account given by her bodyguard who first got wind of what was up suggests otherwise. The experience of many other women also suggests otherwise. What possible reason would this women lie about this? It seems to me she has more reason to lie denying the extent of the assault than exaggerating it. How about you if you had been the victim in her place? Would you make up a story about being sodomised with a broomstick when you'd just had your clothes and hair touched?