Kurdish MP to Turkey "spring is coming"

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    Speaking at the solidarity dinner of BDP (Peace and Democracy Party) İzmir branch, BDP Co-Chair Selahattin Demirtaş pointed out to the AKP and judiciary oriented pressures on the party and democrat segments of the society. Demirtaş said that; “We are a people who grow and multiply as we die. Their only trouble is about preventing us from taking to the streets on 15 January, 8 March and the Newroz day. However, little time left for them to understand that they won’t be able to finish us as we will be overflowing the areas.”

    Evaluating the uninterrupted political and military operations in the recent months, Demirtaş said that; “There is no other way beyond death. What else could they do except for dropping tons of bombs on a 14 year-old child, arresting thousands of us and making the bodies of our children unrecognizable?”

    Mentioning the government officials’ “Security Summit” which resulted in sanction decisions against Kurdish businessmen, Demirtaş evaluated the government’s most recent plans regarding Kurdish business circles and called out to patriotic Kurdish business circles; “Our determination is what presses the panic button. Do not fear these teams who burnt down our properties, villages and houses in the past. The AKP, gathering all its teams in Istanbul, is making plans for harming and intimidating you. Do not sell out the future of your people. On one side stand property and money while on the other side the bodies of young people who fight for a free future are fallen into pieces. Just think for a second. Discussing these values will not leave any honor and dignity in you.”

    Mentioning the increasing operations in recent days, Demirtaş noted that these operations created a short term hope on AKP’s side and added; “Just like the concept of 90’s, the concept of the current period also aims to psych out the people and to prevent them from taking to the streets. At those times, they thought that they had oppressed the Kurdish people. However, what they forget is the fact that the fire and anger of the people is growing more and more day by day. We are a people who grow and multiply as we die. However, the AKP team doesn’t really believe that they will be able to finish us through these plans because they see the civil commotions in the Middle East where peoples are screaming the areas down with the demands they voice. The AKP is looking for ways to silence the Kurds but we, by overflowing the areas in the spring, will show the AKP how successful it has been in its ways of searching.”

    Remarking that the government’s sole wish is to make Kurds kneel down and to make them contended with what the government gives to them, Demirtaş continued as follows; “At this point, it is important what we can do in this respect. Be sure that being able to stand against this fascism and pressure would be enough to gain victory. They can’t do anything more than what they are doing now. They slaughter children with F-16 warplanes and they jail people at all ages, students, professors, journalists and writers after trying them at their own courts. What is left to us is to stand by our party in the strongest way. We shouldn’t give up to follow hard after this purpose to not to make our children face this cruelty as well.”

    Demirtaş continued underlining that Kurds didn’t have a mind to abandon their essential demand for mother tongue education or to be second-class citizens. Concerning the arguments which say that Kurds are equal to Turks as they can be appointed to all kinds of authorized positions, Demirtaş said the followings; “True, Kurds could be appointed to high positions such as a general or a minister. You can deceive those Kurds but what about other 20 million Kurds who are treated as second-class citizens? The state itself has applied separatism for 90 years now.”

    Referring to the criminal complaint the prosecutor filed against him for his statements about the Chief of Defence Staff, Demirtaş noted; “However, for some reason, the prosecutor doesn’t conduct any investigation about the person who gave the order for the slaughter of 34 people with bombs.”

    Demirtaş also mentioned the ongoing isolation on PKK Leader Abdullah Öcalan and called on everyone to be aware towards the danger. “Can we ensure peace in this way?” asked Demirtaş and continued as follows; “We will continue to increase our acts and to take to the streets because the AKP fears of the people. In the coming spring, we will see how successful they have been in the terror they conduct against us. Little time left to spring when our people will protect their will on the streets.”

    http://www.firatnews.org/english/index.php?rupel=article&nuceID=4061
     
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    "spring is coming" +1
     
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    i cant wait for a Kurdish spring to start and end the oppression of kurds by Turkish state .
     
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    A kurd state wouldnt be any different than a mubarak,qaddafi or an essad regime.It would be a puppet state which is a pathway for the west to middle eastern resources.They would put barzani and talabani to the head of the state as their henchmen and here you go,just another dictating regime in middle east.All this "arab spring" trend is just facebook/twitter literature since nothing significant changed so far after all the violence and loss of life in any of those arab countries.Instead libyans even started to think they were better off with qaddafi lol.Also kurds dont have a state tradition and a national consciousness,the only result a kurd state would bring to the region is more unstability and conflict.Because a kurd state cant survive in that region between arabs,persians and Turks.Its destined to be a closed regime and when you dont have any connection with the outside world,you will starve to death.How will you make a "spring" and with what to get independence? By rioting? or Peshemerga will attack to Iran Syria and Turkey? lol.If thats your plan,keep dreaming.Besides if the vast majority of the kurd population in Turkey supported pkk,the region would already get seperated from Turkey in 30 years.There wouldnt be a need to use failed so called twitter revolutions of the arab world as an excuse.Bdp is a joke.They dont have any policy of their own except being the servant of pkk.By the way,will you join to "spring" since your location is australia.It must be summer there lol.
     
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    say what you like mr but 40 million kurds will and are on their way for a state of their own currently occupied by turkey iran and syria (iraqi kurdistan is free).

    and your so called turkey was created by britis and french so i dont know what you talking about , you had a chance since 1923 to give kurds their rights sorry you failed now time has come for our kurdish spring , we will shake turkey like never before .
     
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    lol you can shake it from australia.Turkey exists for thousands of years.The term occupy is wrong also because iran syria or turkey have their own countries with an old and rooted state tradition.Especialy Turks and Persians.And kurds? well...nothing to mention much about it.
     
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    sorry current borders of turkey was created in 1923 and according to the "sevres treaty" kurds like syrians iranians turks and iraqis were also suppose to get a state of their own but ataturk with shah destroyed this treaty later in "lousanne treaty" and back stabbed kurds like always read some history stop been brainwashed by your turkish media... anyways we are going to get our occupied lands back the era of suppressing kurds are over we are now in the era of "Arab spring" and UN , not ottoman empire .
     
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    lol media doesnt talk about history.I know my history well enough.Your passionate lies cant convince me.Then they say "look at the fascist" turks lol.Like there is nothing else worth discussing on the other side.Always a new brainwashed cry baby posting the same sh*t 100 times.Thats boring.I wonder when do you read history books you mention? In your free time that you find from trolling and propaganda? lol
     
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    Another part of the issue is if you ask the question "whats the contribution of kurds to Turkey and their own community?" The answer to that is not much satisfying.They have at least 5-10 kids per family and when they cant look after them,they start complaining about goverment.Still,kurds get the highest amount of financial help for the new born children from the state.They have social issues such as "honor killings" and low education level.They still live under a tribal code and land lord concept is still very dominant.One of the reasons south eastern Turkey couldnt improve as much as western Turkey is decades of pkk terrorism.Even the businessman with kurd origin didnt make enough investments to their own cities and regions.Another fact is,poverty or hard life conditions are not something special for the kurds.There are people that even poorer in any other regions of Turkey.

    Even their ideal of autonomy is "we wont work,we wont produce anything but Ankara still should give money to our local municipalities" and they call it self rule lol.Thats more like being a parasite.At least the other autonomous regions like basque,catalonia have high level of education and life standarts.If you be honest and ask the question "what do kurds have?" nothing.Bdp and pkk are leeches that feed themselves over the blood of kurds.Its an ethnic fascist political party.I have never seen any policy of bdp regarding improving the life and social conditions of kurds.If language or singing a few songs in kurdish will put bread on their table then ok lol.To be honest,Turkey would be a much more civilized and improved country without kurds.
     
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    Torment, in the next few years you will have more Kurds than Turks in Turkey, just deal with it.
    Then why bother fighting them? just let them have their own independent country, they will very happy to live in an independent Kurdistan.
     
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    lol what do you expect to get? pkk tried for 30 years and what did they get? Nothing.lol
     
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    Persians YEs, Turks not really... , about Kurds History is good but whats about today ? they have a clear national idea-ideology what do YOU have?
     
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    lol @ kurd ideology.Your lifetime is not enough to understand the history of Turks.search the 16 big Turkic states and empires.that would be a good start for you and your crusader nazi mentality.your weak english is only good enough for constant desperate insult attempts against Turks in every miserable thread you open with your weak knowledge and baseless hate.I wonder who stepped on your tail.
     
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    they made the "mountain turks" disappear , now kurdish language is spoken in public and studied at Batman Uni ..... soon it will be autonomy .

    now what has your American made army has achieved in 30 years !!! except killing kurds yes what else ???
     

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