Star Wars Episode 1 The Phantom Menace 3D.

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  1. jedimiller

    jedimiller Well-Known Member

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    hahaha, you didn't see the other pics? A guy took a Yoda and an artoo...and everyone had a lightsaber. common.
     
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    It sucked in 3D, i.e. it sucked ever more (and I didn't think that wou8ld be possible).
     
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    You have to be kidding me...it was an absolute gift to watch it on 3D.
     
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    (*)(*)(*)(*) film turned into 3D =/= good film

    The original films are classics, the newer 3 are wank.
     
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    Went and saw it. Then Immediately regretted it.
    This feeling peaked during the horrible machine shop scene where anakin asks padme is she is an angel /gag

    I will give george cred for the CGI holding up fairly well. The dialogue and plot were still awful though.

    I will not be attending the next 2 of the prequels (I will go to the 3 originals though. Because those were actually good)

    Also the 3d was a sham. There was like 1 scene where it made any difference...
     
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    Liam Neeson was the only one who managed to pull off his role in any way.

    Samuel L. Jackson could have helped if Lucas had made his roll less lame and given him more than 20 seconds of screen time.

    Jar Jar is a dead horse at this point and he has been kicked enough.

    the kid who played anakin couldn't act his way out of a bag, although to be fair, its hard to find decent child actors and of course not even a good one would have been able to pull off some of the (*)(*)(*)(*) that George put into the script)

    Obi-Wan should have had a much larger role and should have developed a bond with Anikan, not simply take him in because his master wanted him to.

    The chick who played queen amadala (or however its spelled) gave what appeared, at least in my eyes, to be the most wooden performance ever recorded on film. She acted like she didn't even want to be in the movie.


    One of the larger beefs I had was the fact the plots wre all over the place and if you picked them apart they don't make any (*)(*)(*)(*) sense. What the hell was Palpatine giving the trade fedration in return for their help? It couldn't have been political power because that would give him away, and corporations generally don't start wars for nothing...

    Where the hell were all the people on Naboo? YOU NEVER SEE A SINGLE NABOO CITIZEN UNTIL THE PARADE.

    The force explanation didn't make any (*)(*)(*)(*) sense, it should have just been left as a mystery.

    What the hell were the naboo being cut off from that they needed so much? They all start losing their (*)(*)(*)(*) because they have gone like 2 days without "space supplies" on a planet of extreme fertility...

    Why did the trade federation land ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE PLANET FROM THE CAPITAL IN THE BEGINNING?

    So much (*)(*)(*)(*) did not work....

    Also something else got my goat.
    The Choreography of the fights.
    Remember in A New Hope and in the following movies when there were light saber fights? Remember how those went? There were no fancy flips, or ridiculously agile moves. It was basically 2 people fighting like 2 European knights armed with broadswords would fight. This made sense.
    In the prequels though everyone with a light saber is a (*)(*)(*)(*)ing ninja.

    Remember at the end of The Return of the Jedi When Luke Goes absolutely bat(*)(*)(*)(*) on vader when vader starts talking about turning his sister to the dark side? Luke just starts pounding the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of him. You could tell he was angry. That he was using his emotions to power his strikes. Thats why the emperor talked about using your anger afterwards.

    In The phantom menace though, after Obi-wan sees Qi Gon get killed though, what does he do? Does he get angry that his master and closest companion just got killed? (*)(*)(*)(*) no. He just pulls out the same ninja BS that has been used throughout the entire movie... There is no rage factor.

    Lucas gave himself far to much creative and production control.


    this guy has done a marvelous review of all of the prequels. They are really worth a watch (incredibly entertaining, even if you arn't really a fan of SW) http://redlettermedia.com/plinkett/star-wars/
     
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    Then I challenge you to write a better script and get it sold.

    It's far too easy to criticize. And some people are really good at it and can find fault in anything. There is no such thing as a screenplay or a movie that doesn't have any kind of these minor errors in it. None.

    Overall, it wasn't a bad movie. Not a great one, not a poor one, but not a bad one.

    People just love to overreact.
     
  8. Defengar

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    Lucas only got it published because he is lucas... and its SW... which Hollywood knew would make a (*)(*)(*)(*) load of money no matter how bad it was.

    Seriously, Episode 1 is worse than the happening, the village, and 10,000 B.C. put together.

    Know what else Lucas (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up recently? Indiana Jones. The crystal Skull was (*)(*)(*)(*)ing awful. I am surprised Spielberg is even on speaking terms with Lucas at this point.
     
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    You are a prequel basher. trust me, I know you're type. I'm a real Star Wars fan. I saw the movie more than 10 times when it came out. I am a TRUE star wars fan and I loved TPM. Therefore, your opinion doesn't matter, as well as critics.
     
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    You are right about one thing..this movie was not for the average stupid movie goer. You actually had to know star wars lore to understand this movie. you just proven that this movie was too smart for you. You didn't understand the movie, you were confused most of time, like most people who went to see this movie. I suggest you see the movie over and over and over again until you get it. Redlettermedia is an idiot. he has gotten popular by bashing on this movie...you see it's cool to bash on this movie because it makes you popular. I've met Jake Lloyd and I apologized to him for all the bashing by the fellow fans, the kid plays a kid, a regular kid and very well.

    You are insane and mad like all the other fans that have no clue about star wars...if you don't like it, stick to star trek or lotrs.

    You all wanted a dark movie, a crazy kid killing people. Guess what? Lucas knew people wanted a crazy EMO/angry kid, and that's why he gave you the opposite. He gave you a light movie and you all hated it. you know why? because today people just want dark movies, with guns and killers and haters...with shotguns and blades..you wanted a young anakin acting like the chick from resident evil. mad all the time.

    I'm glad he gave us a light, fun, children movie.
     
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    Did it suck any less in 3D? I remember being so excited to catch the midnight showing when it first opened back in 1999 and then feeling so ripped off after it was over. Too Disney.

    That said, I still wouldn't mind seeing it in 3D. So that was actually a serious question. Did it suck any less in 3D?
     
  12. jedimiller

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    what does that mean? If you don't like the movie, don't go see it. simple. I saw it in 99 more than 10 times and never fell ripped off at all. why would you feel ripped off ONLY for this movie? I felt ripped off watching every movie that came out last year..except the thing and redtails.
     
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    Dude, relax. It's a running gag that every Star Wars fan felt ripped off by the prequel trilogy (with the possible exception being Revenge of the Sith which was pretty awesome until the very end when it took a nosedive into the dirt with the infamous "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!")

    I honestly was curious if the 3D element added much to the Phantom Menace, though.
     
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    The only good thing about the star wars remakes. They were such a failure, in film presentation and content.

    A framed letter hangs somewhere in hollywood "I promise never to try this again"

    Signed,

    G. Lucas.
     
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    I believe Lucas independently financed the film, he didn't have to sell the script to anyone.

    This is almost futile to argue as it is so subjective, but in my opinion, it was a very poorly made film. That is the beauty of film though, I don't have to rewatch it, and those who enjoy it can.
     
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    Well. my qualms with it are that he changed things that I wanted to see.

    for instance, I was always told that the clone wars was a war between different cloning factions, and that Anakin was a freighter pilot, much like Han solo.

    That's what I wanted to see.

    I also wanted to see the Mandalorians hunt down Jedi as well.

    But I got TPM. ATOCs, ROTS.

    I was also told that there was going to be a total of nine different movies, and that there would be three more movies after ROTJ. Which I would've loved to see.

    I would also like to see the live action TV series.

    But the problem with setting series in between the movies is knowing how things are going to turn out. That's the reason why i really can't watch the Clone Wars TV series. I know how it all turns out.

    Oh, and i hate the concept of Midichlorines are the source of the Force.

    I much prefer to think of it as a supernatural energy as opposed to microscopic beings.

    I'm not blind to the faults of the movies, I just don't let it bother me as much as it does everybody else, and I don't like to overreact like everybody else does.
     
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    Star wars remakes were anything but light and fun. G.Lucas in his wisdom crafted nearly 9 hours of boring usa political ramblings in space.

    The senate this or that, inbetween the cgi and the bored wasted talent of the actors, including jackson/neelson. It was painfull to watch the monotone expressions on the usually fiery actors faces.

    So all that naivity of lucas political ramblings in 3 films to buildup to what everyone wanted to finally see, darth vader.

    And this is perhaps the biggest kicks in the balls of any stars wars fan who watched the originals. Mr Darth being reduced to shouting out the word "No" in the last scene while stumbling about like a B movie frankenstein.

    It was obvious how bad the films were in production, i am still amazed the studios who helped pay for it. Didnt try a rewrite to salvage the mess lucas was obsessed with.
     
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    My 10 year old wants to go. He loves Star Wars as much I do, but he doesn't get just how bad Episodes 1-3 were.

    I couldn't possibly sit through Episode 2 in 3-D and see Anakin get all Shakespearin on Padme. One of the worst scenes in cinema history.

    Let's face it 1 & 2 really sucked. 3 was better but even that could have been better.

    Lucas early destroyed star Wars. Let's face it, Shimi Skywalker was a sex slave and Watto made her his (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)! She liked that Toydarian floating meat stick and Watto blew the "force" all up in it. The Force, so shocked by this sexual act, it hiccuped and created the most powerful Jedi, smartest, and whinest human ever.

    Anakin was building pod racers as a toddler and knew how to build a protocol droid that speaks 8 million languages. All on a slave planet of desert.

    Anakin is such a Mack daddy he pimps on a 14 year old cougar who likes little boys. Now imagine if the roles were reversed?....lol.

    No, instead Anakin was Jesus Christ incarnate....lol. But we all know she was a sex slave.
     
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    Yes, star wars is for children... thats why revenge of the sith was PG-13 /facepalm.
     
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    They switched yoda from a puppet to CGI in this one. And they added some extra debris in the race to make the 3D pop more.

    In short no. It was not better.
     
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    He is content to keep changing the original trilogy and re releasing them as "gold collections" to raging fans for 100 dollars.

    The latest change he is doing is the scene in Return of The Jedi.
    Remember the epic scene where vader is going through the moral dilemma in his head during the emperors torturing of Luke, then he goes and throws the emperor into the generator thing?

    Remember how he was silent during that and it was really powerful?

    Lucas is adding the "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" from the end of "Revenge of the Sith" to vader in that scene...


    (*)(*)(*)(*) that (*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    Lucas is now seriously looking into making a Live action SW TV series now that CGI is so good and is much cheaper than it was a few years ago.

    He is looking into possibly doing a TV network deal or a possible HBO thing.
     
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    the reason the first 2 were so bad and the third was somewhat better was because Lucas had total creative control and wrote the script himself for the first 2. He also fired several people who wanted to improve the scripts and/or improve the editing process.
    Then when the third happened he hired 2 outside writers who took his script and gutted the (*)(*)(*)(*) out of it and made a mildly bearable story out of it.
     
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    And this is why I'm glad I have the original DVD's....no BluRay with tweaks...no added CGI bull...just the classic movies as they were meant to be...no changes...
     
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    does greedo or han shoot first of your DVD's?
     

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