Hitler & American Socialists love UNIONS...

The Third Reich, under Hitler wiped out corporate trade unionism by forcing all workers to join one great government union, the National Socialist Union.

 

Hitler’s own words from his book, Mein Kampf:


I think that I have already answered the first question adequately. In the present state of affairs I am convinced that we cannot possibly dispense with the trades unions. On the contrary, they are among the most important institutions in the economic life of the nation. Not only are they important in the sphere of social policy but also, and even more so, in the national political sphere. For when the great masses of a nation see their vital needs satisfied through a just trade unionist movement the stamina of the whole nation in its struggle for existence will be enormously reinforced thereby.
Before everything else, the trades unions are necessary as building stones for the future economic parliament, which will be made up of chambers representing the various professions and occupations.

 

Please refrain in future from expressing your ignorance as many do in the USa ,that the petty-bourgeios 'Left" is in some way Socialist as you correctly point out the liberal radical mileu is reactionary to the core with the prespective of nationalism .Not that the Capitialist tearepublicans and democrats are not NATIONALIST in the extreme.

On the Question of Trade unions they are not nor have they ever been Socialist orgainisations as they always accept the continued existance of the Capitialist system ,its simple Unions were formed along with the Nation historically they set the goal as getting better wages and other reforms of Capitialism.

They are limited by the ups and downs of the capitialist economy.Never putting forward a Revolutionary perspective of getting rid of Capitialism which is the task of the Political Party of the Working Class.

As far as the middle class radicals are concerned ,leninj refered to these types as 'The Swamp".

Other forms of national Socialism include ,Stalinism which advocated that Socialism could be established in a single country,social democracy that over time parliament could transform through national reform into socialism .

The National socialist party of Germany wasn't a Workers party you have to understand the history of Germany and its Political Culture from the 19th century.

Any Party that didn't have the words worker or socialist in its name from 1871 on couldn't have any base in the German working class.

The revealing class perspective and character is in the word National .

Everything National is Capitialist.

 

http://www.oldmagazinearticles.com/Nazis_were_socialists_article_Nazi-German_Labor_Unions_info_pdf

One vast national trade union-Germany

 

Modern unions are far from independent. They would vanish overnight were it not for the cover given to them by federal, state, and local governments. Unions are wholly dependent on laws allowing them gouge workers and bully entire industries. They would vanish like a fart in the wind if they lost the government's protection.









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nationalism is the problem and Stalinism had its Socialist opposition the 4th international of Leon Trotsky ,Hello my name is comrade Phil and my political allegiance isn't to any nation but to the International Working Class.

Internationalism v\s Nationaism is in fact The Working class v\s the Capitialist calss.All forms of nationalism are for the continuance of Capitialism.

 

The destruction of the Independence of the Trade unions is a product of the Corporatist Policy of the Union Leadership like Trumpka in the UAW for instance the role of the corporatist Unions is to tie the working Class to capitialism and return to profit the conditions and wage levels won in past struggles.

Workers must leave the unions and build a political party if they are to survive.

What forms of Union in the Working Class are required ?

That would be the Soviet form of Workers Councils. The Unions in Russia 1917 were not the chief form of revolutionary struggle new forms called Soviets were.

They didn't call it the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics for nothing operative formation SOVIETS. United Workers Councils political formations not economic.

Workers governmant not workers compromise with capitialism called Trade Unions.

trade unions will exist whilst capitialist nations do .BTW!

 

Hitler said: "No, we're not all equal. There are major biological and intelligence gaps separating the races."







Universal equality, comrade?

No thanks.

 

What a pitiful example of the way Capitialism holds back human social and economic development .All the old ancient crap of tribalism lives on only because of social INEQUALITY,and imperailist exploitation.

Socialism which bases itself on the highest forms of ecomonic Development known as Global Intergrated economy is the only way the horrible backward ignorant Tribal way of life will be done away with through planned economy based on Human need not profit.

no human need live like this in 2012 ,may have been necessary in 2012 BC but it only remains today because of the CAPITIALIST system of Social Inequality for profit.

Lets list the other forms of oppression that capitialism maintains ,Child Slavery ,peasant production,Slavery proper,sex slavery and trade in Humans,Racial divisons ,and wars for profit.

Thanks Capitialism your days are numbered you hold humanity Back get out of the way or we take u out.

Oh yes I concider myself no more or less human then those depicted they are my brothers and sisters .

In will sacrifice dmy life for their liberation from poverty and Ignorance.That CAPITIALISM imposes.

Race dosen't exist BTW!

 

Africans have been drinking and bathing in cow urine for centuries. How IMPERIALIST of you to think they should have to change!!!

Oh yea, if Africa only adopted "pluralistic government", "human rights", or "education", they would quickly become an economic powerhouse. LOL

Anyone who has ever lived around Africans knows the truth that automatically punches a hole right through your stupid belief system that everyone is "universally equal".






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If whites didn't discriminate against other ethnicities then the other groups could earn more and pay more in taxes so there would be a level playing field with fewer people in need.

 

If British ,German ,French and Italian as well as Belgium Imperialism's hadn't divided redivided and raped the natural wealth from Africa even in the form of SLAVERY then economic development and Social development in all Africa would be possible.

get a history book and look up what is Colonisation and how the wealth of backward peoples and Nations is RAPED by the Imperialist Powers from the COLONY's to them??

To easy please start to think itstead of blabbering twaddle please ,COLONY"S DO EXIST AND ARE FOR THE ENRICHMENT OF POWERFUL NATIONS AGAINST WEAKER NATIONS,we live under a system called CAPITIALISM ,stupid.

Its the Capitialist system that Maintains and relys upon Social Inequality ,der ,could you point out the fair nature of capitialist national competition for world markets?

Social Inequality is a Byproduct of the Profit not Human system called CAPITIALISM.

Simply put you are saying that a victim of rape and War should be appreciative of the thugs that raped and killed and Stole.And ask for it to continue as its always the victims fault isn't it in your sick outlook of Capitialist Nationalism and Imperialist arrogance.

British Imperialism got rich on the Rape and pillage of India open up a School text book and look to the 19thcentury and 20th century you may learn something.

Not to forget the 18th century african slave trade do you know about slaves and how they ended up in America did they teach you that at school that the Black people are not indigenous to the American Continent ,but were the product of the SLAVE TRADE from AFRICA ?????Remember boy remember history of the USA!

Sorry they may not teach this history to10 year olds like you.

 

This sounds like the history of Africa. Slavery, wars, and sexual trafficking were the major industries before Dutch settlers brought farming to the Cape.

That's right, everyone is universally equal according to you crazed commies.

Which woman do YOU think is more attractive, comrade?

 

I wonder if any of the lib socialists here have read any of these links proving that Hitler ran the largest government run union the world had ever seen. Hitler ran a National Socialist economy and nation, yet libs and socialists alike keep denying it.

 

Letsget get back on track with a Poll (1930s Nazi Germany Socialist or Not Socialist) Please someone post it up asI'm not savy enough to do one or otherwise you woulda seen 39 Polls by Gator Monroe over tha last few months

 

And his reasoning behind this? It was a one size fits all attempt to centralised unions instead of having unions in separate groups so he could have the ultimate control of the unions.

Hitler hated unions, especially the stevedoring unions in the ports in the north of Germany.

 

Hitler loved the Union (Nazi Party)Control over Teams & Racers who Piloted Auto-Union & Mercedes-Benz to World Championships & allowed Government sponsership & Influence to give Germany Two Chances at world domination at every event

 

Hitler was a Christian nationalist who loved bombing other countries. That's about as conservative as you can get.

 

lol thats as weak a reply as I could ever come up with myself .

 

Hitler was an occultist, which probably fits into the "Pagan" category. He also worshiped nature, persecuted those who tortured animals (See: kosher butchers), and by some accounts was a vegetarian.

 

Ditto ...

 

Hitler was against unions and strikes. So the analogy is similar. Of course we pray no one gets a hold of the Republican party like Hitler did his own party. Totalitarians dislike people sticking up for themselves (understatement). Anyone who thinks actions in numbers are not stronger than single actions doesn't know history. And to follow that point we may be doomed to repeat some of the bad parts of history due to the obstinance and stupidity of some of us.

 

So Hitler wasn't a war mongering nationalist who claimed to be a christian?
Or are you claiming those things aren't conservative?

 

Hitler loved dogs too.

Clearly you think we should all hate dogs too.

 

Hitler SOCIALIZED ( Created Nazi Party) the Workers to (Build the Autobahn ) (Modernize the Nation & the Navy) ( Enlarge the Army) (Gain control over Sports (Auto Manufacturing & Racing Teams & Boxing & Olympics) to give prestiege to Germany...