Romans 1:25-27

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  1. Ostap Bender

    Ostap Bender Well-Known Member

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    No one hates God more as homosexuals who try to prohibit the Holy Bible as so-called "Hate Speech".The verses below can help to understand why gays hate the Holy Bible.It is well-known that homosexuals count among fighting atheists more as 90 %.

    It is difficult to understand why queers fight against God instead to repent and to stop to commit sin.It is well-known that many gays become straight again after appropriate medical treatment.

    Romans 1:26-27

    King James Version (KJV)

    25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
     
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    Right, well telling someone (regardless of the source) that they should die or should be killed is hate speech. Get over it.

    Leviticus 20
    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    Why not just focus on the New Testament like what Christians are supposed to do hmmmm?
     
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    So it's all God's fault, according to Paul?
     
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    I wouldn't exactly call these behavioral modification techniques 'appropriate medical treatment', no more than I would say potty training a child is 'medical treatment'.
     
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    I never thought electrical shock treatment was effective.
     
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    Is that what Marcus Bachmann is into? Sounds kinky.
     
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    lol

    That is true.
     
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    Gays don't hate God. A lot of gay people attend church and profess to be devout Christians.
     
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    Homosexuals have to realize that God Loves them just as he loves the rest of us. He just hates their sin. Now since Homosexuality is a mental illness I think it would be great that if a homo came to the church and repented the church would give him medical treatment for his illness.
     
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    That's what he did.
     
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    At least Christians aren't raging for the deaths of homosexuals like some religions i could mention.
     
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    More hatred from a book that is 100% HEARSAY.
     
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    no. Much of it from eye witnesses. But hey. You can believe what you want.
     
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    Oh yeah? Who wrote The Gospel of Matthew?
     
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    professing and being are two different things .

    It's a moral and spiritual delima of our permissive era that people can't discern the differance .
     
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    Hey HillBilly, How ya doing?
     
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    Ostap , my good Christian friend , you've started a thread you'll never win .

    I admire your stand , and agree with you , but every post in rebuttal to your OP has been flamebait replys .

    I've reported them with with my abuse function button , but it won't do any good , there are few here on PF that will stand with us , , my friend .

    My health will not allow me to fight the fight I should , but I stand on the solid rock , as do you .

    I will stand with you , my friend in Jesus . I will stand with you till the end.

    I cry for the immorality of our age ,and pray for Gods mercy for them , but why will they not turn from their wickedness ?

    One day , my friend , when we cross the bard , we shall meet on Gods golden shore , and when we do , I'm gonna hug your neck , my friend .

    Look at the posts that will follow from my post to you , they will accuse me falsely for a queer hug , the Godless horde will prevail in this world , my friend , Jesus said it would be so in the last days ,as it was in Sodom & Gomarah , but they will be in Hell for their blasphemy against God , and their unrepented sin will put them there . . of their own free will they are (*)(*)(*)(*)ed , but we have tried , my friend , we have tried .
     
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    :smile: hey rstones , man , it's been a while , my old friend . I think your post and Maks are the only ones I didn't report for abuse on this thread.

    I started to report you , but then remembered you're just a hard-head :laughing: and not a troll . . Mak the same way . .

    I'm doing fairly well , I guess . could be better , but I'm not complaining too much . I've lost a lot of weight this year , whew , had to put 3 notches in my belt to keep my pants up . but I'm having a med change , and sort of a shaky feeling , whew , I don't know if you take meds or not , but when the docs change them , whew , well , it's an adjustment , ya know ?

    Look , this is Ostaps OP & thread , I heard he was being packed , and I came to make it a fair fight ... and I am here, and I'll be here for as long as it takes to keep it that way.

    this Wolverine guy needs to go . if you're siding him , you need to take a step back and a 2nd look . he's a troll , and for all your hard-headedness , you never was a troll like Wolverine is , he's a bad 'en , one of the worst I've ever seen.
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    where you make discussion , he makes ridicule .

    So , how have you been ? ain't talked to you in awhile , gosh , what? a year now ? Family ok ? any new babies ?

    Please , whether you agree with Ostap or not , he deserves the same consideration as you and everyone else does to make a sincere and honest post without being whacked and gang-banged for his beliefs .

    That is not discussion , that is a pack attack . and that is against the PF TOS.

    If you're a part of that , I would kindly ask you to stop.
     
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    Matthew. See, that wasn't so hard.
     
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    Is the wieght loss a good thing or bad thing?

    I'm good. Traveling around seeing sports, like usual. Yes it has been awhile my hard headed friend. Stop by and say hi once in while :)
     
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    :laughing:

    The author is unknown, which makes it hearsay.
     
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    Who wrote the plays attributed to Shakespeare? Before you go sticking your foot in your mouth, you might want to check this out:
    http://www.bardweb.net/debates.html

    It seems that there has been an ongoing debate about the authenticity of Mr Shakespeare and his alleged writings. So, until that debate is resolved once and for all, then the glamor and glory of Mr Shakespeare is highly in question. Well how about Plato: see here... same kind of controversy: http://www.iep.utm.edu/plato/ ; and who was the teacher of Plato,,,, Socrates... a mythological creature who never wrote anything in his own pen hand... My oh my... seems that if we do our research, most of the historical figures are being swept away by the winds of time. I guess all of those writings attributed to such people are also 'hearsay'.
     
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    We have to ask, always, 'Who would benefit from making such a person up?' and 'Who was capable of doing it?' Socrates and Jesus come over as very convincing characters. Plato was a very accomplished writer, but there is other evidence for Socrates. The gospel writers were a lot less accomplished and there is less independent evidence but - it seems to me as a reader anyway - the character they create is surprisingly consistent (unlike views of Socrates), which suggests a real and very powerful original. I think the skills of literary criticism are the ones that are relevant here - plus, of course, those of other disciplines. Compare 'King' Arthur and traditions about him to see what a probably folk or fictional character looks like. In that case there may have been an original, but we know almost nothing about him anyway.
     
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    Who says? You? Early Church Tradition is consistent with the belief that Matthew was the author of that gospel. The earliest manuscripts of that gospel bear his name.
     
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    quite the contrary.

    it is the churches that empower homosexuals as they contribute to their churches and most every church is for sale in some fashion or another.

    perhaps look into san francisco's christian base.

    you dont even get medical treatment for you misleading explanations, as i think it would take a labotomy

    Romans 1:26-27

    King James Version (KJV)

    25Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

    26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

    27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.[/QUOTE]

    creating the image of man being greater than women is the apostacy.

    Most every man succumbs to mother.

    and will succumb to mother nature
     

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