I believe in God , and here's why

Even if you go back to ancient Iran and Iraq, you have polytheism in the oldest civilizations. How did I cut out history before CHrist? Even with the 5500 BCE it is 5500 years before Christ. Oldest know artifacts found date back about 35,000 years and most are carved goddess idols. Christianity is no more than 2000 or so years old. Trying to say that Christianity has been around for thousands of years prior is just wishful thinking. Stop trying to re-write history to suit your beliefs.

 

Actually HillBilly, If you are under 40, you got a good shot at living to 1,000. If you can live to 1,000 years, then you would be looking at immortality.

 

I was curious as to a response.

You believe in God because of a statement in the Bible.

Why do you believe the statement in the Bible?

 

Because it's written by God. And he believes in God. It's perfect logic..

 

It was written by men and "divinely-inspired" by God. The logic still escapes me.

How can people believe a work comprised of different "books" written over the centuries, burried, written in a dead language, translated from text that has no punctuation, interpreted, changed to suit those in power, had chapters eliminated, and had a committee to see what will be conisdered canon and what is heresay. To me, the only real way to even start to understand it is to read the original scrolls. Even then, you will have people read it differently.

 

That's my point. It is circular logic.

I don't have any problem with anyone believing in God, but just saying that it is because of something written in a book is not a very persuasive reason.

 

Salvation is rather vague terminology from the dark ages, even in a theological context, so I'm not sure exactly what this modern term of 'salvation' entails?

If that one verse is what your Bible teaches "that your 'salvation' rests on", what do you do with the other thousands of verses in the Bible and why bother with them at all?

 

well , TAO , it looks to me as though He already has .

 

Yukon , every verse in the Bible , Old or New Testament , supports that one verse , John 3:16 . . . so , to answer your question , I'd suggest taking it on Faith , and study his word and pray for discernment .

 

I believe because it's more that just words in a book .

Navy , your quest for the truth will bring you to God ,

If you want proof of God , when you go to bed tonight , get on your knees at bedside , and just pray for a sick family member or a friend that needs help , ain't nobody gonna see you on your knees but You & God , ,

somewhere in that prayer , God will find you , my friends .

 

So if I get on my knees and pray to Odin or a god from a pagan religion and get the same sensation, then that means that Odin is real, correct? When I was a Wiccan, I would get the same sense of calm and peace when praying to the Goddess that Christians have claimed to get when praying to God. Now, when I try to calm and center my mind and meditate, I can get the same feeling. The mind can do wonderful things if we can cut through the haze and buzz of modern society. You can call it God, or Diana, or whatever.

 

Navy , it is for God to discern your heart / soul / spirit and your prayers.

God has said in the Bible not to worship false idols , so that is between you and God , it's not my place to Judge .

It is my place and task to speak the truth as I understand it , but I'm just a man , same as you .

When I pray , it's between me and God .

I hope it's the same with you , my friend .

 

You talk like you're completely brainwashed. It's actually kinda creepy.

 

That is why they are called "A Flock". An easliy led group of sheep. That is another reason I will never be a Christian. Why follow a belief that specifically calls its followers sheep?

 

i fully support peoples right to believe in god for whatever reason they sit fit (its what people do with that belief that sometimes bothers me), so if this verse is why you believe in god, then great.

but from my perspective it shows belief as a result of environment rather than objectivity. people from all faiths express with the same certainty that their faith is the right one, and they use their own scriptures to show why, which is actually a perfect example of circular reasoning.

 

Whether you believe in God or gods or not, one has to concede that our legacy as human beings is the belief in higher omnipotent power(s).

 

i reject that our legacy is belief in the divine. i think the human legacy is progress for the betterment of the species.

 

And we've had to fight tooth and nail with religion to progress anywhere.

 

Every ancient society has had belief in a higher power or powers that has been handed down throughout the ages. That is a legacy.

 

We've also had to fight tooth and nail with false pseudo-scientific beliefs.

 

Hmmm what does this verse mean?

Any christians like to venture a detailed explanation?

 

i can't see how but this gay friend of mine sees it all as homosexualty..

he is pretty convincing.

i'm trying to get him to join PF and share his views...

the virgin birth to him is about two men having anal sex..giving birth to love.

 

Hmmmm disconcertingly enthralling.....not.

Ill bet no christian here or anywhere can give us a detailed explanation of what this verse means for us here in the real world.

Why? Because this cult is mostly about vague promises based on a liturgy that was invented hundreds of years after the death of the cult leader.

People generally do not have the courage to turn away from cultist nonsense and look to the thoughts of great thinkers who make no silly promises and were born hundreds of years before Christ.

 

OK. You believe in God because you believe in words in the Bible.

Why do you believe in words in the Bible?