Soul dies every day then how it is eternal?

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    Mr. Surya asked a question “You have said that in the Gita, the Lord said that awareness is born daily and perishes daily. But how come some people are pointing out that in the same Gita it is told that the soul is eternal?”

    Swami replied: There are two theories about the soul. In one theory the soul is eternal. This is correct because if you take the soul (awareness) as inert energy in its basic form, energy is eternal. The eternality of the soul is proved in deep sleep since life continues due to the existence of inert energy as the heat in the human body. Due to this inert energy alone, all the systems in the human body are functioning and the life is maintained in the body.

    Deep sleep indicates the co-functioning of two systems which are food (Annamaya Kosha) as body and respiration (Pranamaya Kosha) to produce inert energy by the oxidation of food. In the same deep sleep, the awareness has perished. Even the last trace of awareness, which is self awareness (awareness of awareness itself) as seen in meditation, disappears in deep sleep. Therefore, you have to agree that the awareness is transformed into its basic content which is inert energy. In other words you can say that the awareness has disappeared or is destroyed. When the golden ornament is converted into a lump of gold, you can say that the ornament is destroyed. When you awake, the awareness is reborn. This is our experience and cannot be disputed.

    If you view the soul as inert energy, it is eternal as evident from deep sleep. If you view the soul as awareness, it is born daily and dies daily. Both these are two angles of view about the soul. It is like the dualistic nature of an electron which is a particle as well as a wave. The electron exhibits the properties of both in different contexts but not in the same context. Similarly, the soul exhibits both the properties in different contexts. Both cannot co-exist in the same context because both contradict each other. The Lord mentioned both the theories of the soul in the Gita and it is very important to note that the Lord did not condemn any theory. The two words used in this context which are ‘Atha’ and ‘Cha’ mean that both are equally valid theories in their own contexts (Athachainam…—Gita).
     
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    Once again you have 11 threads going on in this sub-forum. And don't ok ok ok me... this is ridiculous. Stop making so many threads!
     
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    sorry for that... i understood...
     
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    Its very annoying and nobody is reading your threads.
     
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    I would pay more attention to your threads and even comment on them if there weren't so many of them... starting 5-10 threads a day is ridiculous.
     
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    When you die, your soul dies along with you. Your body and soul are inseparable.

    Bee
     
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    That is not correct. That means everything ends for your here itself in the world, in such case the meaning of creation is lost. When you die, only your shirt which is the body is left over here. The soul goes to the upper world.
     
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    I have no problem with spiritual thinking if it makes you comfortable but as for me I know what happens to memories when the chemical process ceases. And without memories, it will be as if I was never born.

    When people die, babies are born and I'm comfortable knowing that when I die I leave a place for someone else to occupy.

    Bee
     
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    You are admitted in the college and your main aim is to get the degree. If you fail in the exams your main aim is upset, therefore, you should not get tension. Similarly you should have tension if the main aim of the human life i.e., to achieve the grace of God, fails. Except that, all this family life and relationships are only extra curricular activities. In your college life, a game is conducted as an extra curricular activity. Suppose you are defeated in it. You should take it sportively and not seriously, because that is not the main aim. Therefore take everything in life sportively, because, this life is not the ultimate aim. If family life only is the goal, even animals and birds have their family lives. The speciality of human life is to think and achieve the grace of God.
     

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