Republicans Think Women Are Are "Livestock," Create and Pass Legislature that Says So

"Rep. Terry England (R-Auburn) compared pregnant women carrying stillborn fetuses to the cows and pigs on his farm. According to Rep. England and his warped thought process, if farmers have to “deliver calves, dead or alive,” then a woman carrying a dead fetus, or one not expected to survive, should have to carry it to term."

"In order for a pregnancy to be considered “medically futile,” the fetus must be diagnosed with an irreversible chromosomal or congenital anomaly that is “incompatible with sustaining life after birth.” The Georgia “fetal pain” bill also stipulates that the abortion must be performed in such a way that the fetus emerges alive. If doctors perform the abortion differently, they face felony charges and up to 10 years in prison. Given all this, the so-called compromise suddenly does not look like much of a bargain.

For anti-choice lawmakers, it is an item of faith that fetuses feel pain at 20 weeks. But scientists disagree. Reviews of all existing medical evidence have found that fetuses have not developed the neurological structures to feel pain until at least 25 weeks, and likely not until 28 weeks, in the third trimester."

http://msmagazine.com/blog/blog/2012/03/31/at-11th-hour-georgia-passes-women-as-livestock-bill/




Given that Republicans keep attacking and denigrating women, is it any surprise that Obama has a 15 point lead on both Republican candidates with women?

 

So a representative that relates his experiences on the farm and breaking his heart to see animals born dead is comparing women to pigs? Only in liberal land. It goes to show why this is only on liberal hate blogs.

 

Getting desperate, Dave. From the MSBlog, "Commonly referred to as the “fetal pain bill” by Georgian Republicans and as the “women as livestock bill” by everyone else,..." Everyone else? That's amazing. How about no one else except the faithful, the true believers, those who deny life.

 

It's appropriate to compare women to livestock then?

 

"Given that Republicans keep attacking and denigrating women, is it any surprise that Obama has a 15 point lead on both Republican candidates with women? " Getting desperate, Dave.

From the MSBlog: "Commonly referred to as the “fetal pain bill” by Georgian Republicans and as the “women as livestock bill” by everyone else,..." Everyone else? That's hilarious, Dave. I hate to break the news to you but they never asked me. No, it isn't everyone else. It's just the left-wing faithful who deny life.

And, I wonder if the liberals really think women are too dumb to notice who calls them (*)(*)(*)(*)s, (*)(*)(*)(*)(*), and hos?

 

What's it like to be so stupid that you have to repost the same thing multiple times to get the entirety of your asinine point across?

 

Here's what he really said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeEfVLPWPvw

Have you actually taken a moment to read what this bill is about? After 20 weeks a fetus feels pain, they're trying to protect against that. His message is that if we have laws protecting animals based on causing undue harm/pain/cruelty, why shouldn't we have them for people? Does claiming there's a war on women make you feel better about not supporting a law that grants a fetus the same rights as a farm animal?

 

Why should livestock have more rights than women. Got an answer for that?

 

What a shock and awe thread.

 

Fetuses don't feel pain at 20 weeks. Do some research.

 

So, because there's debate on whether they feel pain between 18 weeks and 29 weeks, you would still grant farm animals more rights than a fetus. Got it.

 

It's a shame to see the Republicans' efforts to roll back fifty years of women's rights achievements.

 

My making sure the left gets it's wish, giving livestock more consideration than a fetus.

 

Who created the livestock legislation?

 

I just think that livestock are really under appreciated in society.

 

Watched the video, have no idea why this guy is in government.

 

Is there a law saying that farm animals must carry dead fetuses until they come out?

 

LOL! You don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about women, Dave. I haven't seen a single post from you up in arms about liberal treatment of conservative women. Why can't you just be honest for once? This isn't about women. It's about politics. You're a liberal so you want to see Republicans as bad no matter what they do. You seem to have this bogus belief that all women are pro-abortion. And to be fair, you're not alone. Most liberals believe this. But you have this huge blind spot that prevents you from acknowledging pro-life women. So you don't count them as women. It's like saying all pieces on a chess board are white and completely ignoring the black ones.

Indeed, the only people Republicans are attacking are liberals. Which is why you're upset. Because they're attacking you.

 

Regardless of political persuasion. What is currently happening in many states is a bunch of male politicians and male religious people are passing tehmost onerous anti-abortion legislation they can. They aren't attacking liberal women or republican women or independent women, they are attacking all women. They are deciding what is best for her, what kind of medical care she can recieve, dictating to doctors how to administer care. Frankly they are completely overstepping their bounds.

A little bit of science can go a long long way in exposing this type of "fetal pain" legislation for what it really is. It isn't about women at all, its all about imposing ones religious and moral beliefs on others.

Here's a very interesting scientific paper addressing this issue directly.

It comes from JAMA. Its 6 pages of text with some pictures for the more scientifically challenged around here.

http://img2.tapuz.co.il/forums/1_142438655.pdf

Evidence Synthesis
Pain perception requires conscious recognition or awareness
of a noxious stimulus. Neither withdrawal reflexes nor hormonal stress responses to
invasive procedures prove the existence of fetal pain, because they can be elicited by
nonpainful stimuli and occur without conscious cortical processing. Fetal awareness
of noxious stimuli requires functional thalamocortical connections. Thalamocortical fibers
begin appearing between 23 to 30 weeks’ gestational age, while electroencephalography
suggests the capacity for functional pain perception in preterm neonates probably
does not exist before 29 or 30 weeks. For fetal surgery, women may receive general
anesthesia and/or analgesics intended for placental transfer, and parenteral opioids
may be administered to the fetus under direct or sonographic visualization. In these
circumstances, administration of anesthesia and analgesia serves purposes unrelated
to reduction of fetal pain, including inhibition of fetal movement, prevention of fetal
hormonal stress responses, and induction of uterine atony.

Conclusions:Evidence regarding the capacity for fetal pain is limited but indicates
that fetal perception of pain is unlikely before the third trimester. Little or no evidence
addresses the effectiveness of direct fetal anesthetic or analgesic techniques. Similarly,
limited or no data exist on the safety of such techniques for pregnant women in
the context of abortion. Anesthetic techniques currently used during fetal surgery are
not directly applicable to abortion procedures.

 

A fetus doesn't feel pain until the third trimester, and nor is it a person, so why should we give it rights?

 

Allowing unborn infants to live! How repugnant! How morally reprehensible! This is an outrage!

 

Boy oh boy he sure is touched i can't believe he was ever elected.

 

Republican women breed.

What more can Republican men ask of them?