"68" the average IQ of sub-Saharan Africa say researchers

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    northwinds Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Germany was carpet-bombed to the stone age a generation ago.....over two million German women were raped by the invading armies......the whole country was colonized and divided along an arbitrarily set border......yet, in a generation it is back to being a 1st world country, making some of the most sophisticated products on the planet.....say it with me "DNA...DNA......DNA....Its all about the DNA"
     
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    Yeah that Marshall plan pumping hundreds of millions of dollars to rebuild didn't have anything to do with it.
     
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    It ain't about the money honey.......you could send a kid to private school based on the per pupil expenditure by the City of Atlanta School System.....yet that school system is an abject failure year after year.....to the point they have to cheat on standardized tests to keep that federal and state money flowing...sany it with me "DNA....DNA....Its all about he DNA". We could spend "Marshall Plan Dollars" on Rwanda....and Rwanda would still be Rwanda
     
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    "If they tell you it's not about the money, it's about the money."

    Education levels are known to have a positive affect on poverty levels (decreasing them),
    while poverty is known to have a negative impact on one's likelihood of getting higher levels of education.
    Therefore, if one cannot afford education due to social, societal, or even personal reasons, this will increase their likelihood of falling into poverty,
    and by the same token, if an individual or a society is poor, this will hinder their attempts at gaining higher levels of education.
    As for war, it, like low education levels, is also a main factor in causing poverty.
    Do you disagree with this?

    -Meta
     
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    Umm so the money spent rebuilding Germany had NOTHING to do with Germanys quick rebound after WWII? My fail-o-meter has exploded trying to measure that thought.

    Now if you wanna SINCERELY discuss the plight of the Atlanta school system, by all means, but don't try and deflect your fail about the Marshall plan having a huge part in Germanys quick recovery with some nonsense about per pupil spending in Atlanta.
     
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    I pointed out the Atlanta School System fiasco as yet another example of DNA trumping expenditure. Yeah, maybe the Germans would have taken a generation and a half to start building the best cars in the world again......meanwhile down in Rwanda there has never been an automobile manufacturing plant at any time....in any generation......there is no German Rwanda and there is no Rwandan Germany......DNA, not money, matters
     
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    Every child in the City of Atlanta has the opportunity to graduate high school.....and the city will spend as much on them per pupil that most private schools charge........yet, the drop-out rate is astronomical.....the test scores are abysmal....nobody is holding these kids back....in fact, they are trying their best to pull them through the system. Free lunches, free breakfasts, after school programs, free school supplies.....and yet they, as a whole, are abject failures....tell me why? I know, I know, I know....pick me......DNA & IQ....can't change that.
     
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    Just cause you spend private school tuition levels of money per pupil on a school system does not mean that public schools students are the same as said private school students. Involved and educated parents, stocked fridge, well supplied students, it goes on and on, all those points are almost a given when talking about private school tuition since it comes from the pockets of hyper involved parents.

    Just blaming DNA is a racist thought of the 19th century variety, why don't you try updating your rhetoric before you bring up phrenology.
     
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    Well if it is indeed the DNA why do the measures between female students of any race more closely match?
     
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    Exactly......public school students (in black areas) are not the same.......their DNA and IQ, on average is very different....that's my point. As far as stocked frigs go....they don't need that because 99% of the students are getting free brefas and lunch paid for by my tax dollars. And "hyper involved parents" don't get to take the SAT for their kids.....just sayin'.....DNA.
     
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    Indeed and it's proven that children need no food over holidays, summer, and dinner time.

    BTW how is BLEEPING about feeding poor children in school going to win you the undecided people to your side of the argument? You trying to pick up the puppy kickers out there to your side?
     
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    That's your point? That average IQ levels of students in black areas are different from students in other areas?
    But surly, you believe something should be done, or not done, in response to such a revelation? Or am I wrong?
    If I'm not wrong, then what is it that you propose to impose in response to such an inherent gap, (assuming it is truly inherent)?

    I assume you'd get rid of Affirmative action right? So would that be the only thing you'd change, or would there be other changes?
    Also, assuming you would change Affirmative Action initiatives, specifically which types of Affirmative Action would you change,
    or would you simply get rid of all forms of Affirmative Action, regardless of particular implementation?

    Also, you said average IQ there,
    so does that mean that you acknowledge that some black people are in fact more intelligent than some white people???

    Thanks,

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    And i have a dream where people are not given jobs and college entrance based on the color of their skin. End AA now.
     
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    Affirmative Action helps white women more than any other group. Why are you railing against white women in a thread set up largely so people with racist views can rant about black people, I am confused?
     
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    Of course i mean on the average. That's obvious. Lots of smart blacks and dumb whites. But on average whites are smarter and that translates into a HUGE gap at the high end and the low end. That's why nearly all top scientists are white while so many blacks cannot even learn to read.
     
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    Same with the japanese. And yet blacks have never produced a technologically advanced country in the hundreds of years they've tried. The idiots think it's because africa has the wrong political system but that's not it. They're stupid.
     
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    When using typical student performance measures why do female students regardless of race preform negligibly similar when accounting for socioeconomic standing? I suppose genetics has a sexist bias too?
     
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    Discounting the those Egyptian empire of course because some are under the misguided impression that the peoples that built the pyramids look like the remnants of the Ottoman empire that happen to reside there now.
     
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    Yes, I acknowledge that some black folks....the ones with large contributions of caucasian DNA are more intelligent than some whites in the lower rungs of white DNA. And , yes, based upon this fact I would eliminate any sort of affirmative action programs. Instead of pretending that 85 IQ blacks can be NASA scientists if we just spend $10,000 more per year on them I would spend that $10,0000 on a promising white or asian student who might send us to Mars or find a cure for HIV....just sayin'......we are trying to move forward as a human race....spending our limited resources on a dog that can't jump over the fence.....no matter how many times you put steak on the other side fence is folley......
     
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    If I agree with your thoughts can we just send you to Mars?
     
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    Screw that "when accounting for socioeconomic standing" crapola. That's another fudge factor you liberals use to obscure the truth.
     
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    lol cause poor people in general, and poor children specifically don't have challenges others do not? Still chasing those undecided puppy kickers toward your argument eh?
     
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    a lower i.q. when done by our standards of course, but all the knowlecge of math and history isnt gonna help you survive in their neck of the woods.
     
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    If you truly believe that individual blacks have the capacity and potential to become as smart/intelligent/useful as white people, or even more-so,
    then wouldn't you also have to at least acknowledge that certain forms of Affirmative Action may be defensible on the grounds
    that they provide such black individuals with certain opportunities to realize their potential that these individuals most
    likely would not have gotten otherwise? That's not to say there might not be negatives to some types of
    Affirmative Action, as long as it can be claimed that some blacks have the potential to become
    smarter than some white if given the chance, what exactly is the rationale
    against Affirmative Action?? Fell free the interchange 'black' and 'white'
    with other races....

    Also, what is (or was) 'the rationale' for Affirmative Action as you see it?
    And specifically what specific type of Affirmative Action are you in favor of getting rid of,
    or do you believe all forms of Affirmative Action, regardless of their particular implementation, are useless?

    Thanks,

    -Meta
     
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    Would you choose to educate or hire a black person with 100 IQ over an equally qualified white person with 99 IQ?
     
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