Obama endorses Same-Sex Marriage

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  1. Mac-7

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    No.

    Obama does not depend on my support or approval to stay in office but Romney does.

    Presidents are not fire-and-forget missiles that once started on their way will always go where you want them to.

    They have to be guided all the way to the target.
     
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    When the choice is a candidate who is less than conservative or a Marxist I'll happily take the lesser of two evils.
     
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    Richard Lugar did.

    And over time others may also.
     
  4. Questerr

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    And when Romney demonstrates that he is at least as bad for America as Bush, though not as bad as Obama, will you vote for the 2016 Democrat candidate to get rid of him (even if that person doesn't reflect your principles) or will you leave the (*)(*)(*)(*) up Romney in place for another 4 years?
     
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    Picking the lesser of two evils time and time again, has got this country in the mess it's in now.
     
  6. Questerr

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    Exactly right.
     
  7. The Mello Guy

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    Lol Marxist would be less than consevative wouldn't it?

    And romneys record as governor is at least as Marxist as anyone elses
     
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    Meh, you have a point. But, then again, you seem more optimistic than I do, and I can't hold anything against you for that.
     
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    You have answered your own question.

    Being not as bad as Obama is always better than Obama.

    And those are the only two choices since a vote for Johnson now is a vote for Obama.

    If Johnson wanted to be president he should have made his move in the Republican primary.
     
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    theunbubba Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here's the reason. Although it's been explained ad infinitum. I will do it again so it might sink in just once. Romney will vote with us, and sign our bills out of congress, without hesitation. In at least 85% of our agenda he will heartily agree. Obama will fight us tooth and nail in all instances.

    Now does that get through to your feeble understanding of the world?
     
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    Then liberals should have no problem voting for Romney since, being a liberal himself, Romney is essentially "one of them", right?

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    Of course, there are a few other redeeming qualities that Romney possesses over Obama, the first being the most obvious: he's not Obama. Romney also ran a business -- yes, I know, corporations aren't businesses; try telling that to the Alaska Native corporate-owned Section 8(a) "small businesses" up here -- which is more capitalist (for profit) experience than Obama has ever had. Romney also still has more governing experience than Obama has had since it hasn't been 4 years for Obama yet and Romney actually knows how to cut a deficit I still don't care for him that much, but I might learn to like Romney someday...maybe.
     
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    State sponsored marriage of any sort is an insult to humanity, and yet this piddly crap is still relevant.
     
  13. Questerr

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    *Facepalm*

    Okay, let me see if I can dumb this down a little:

    You are going to vote for Romney because you believe Obama is bad for the country, yes?

    Would you then for whoever the Democrat candidate is in 2016 to get rid of Romney after he does bad for the country?
     
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    Well said.
     
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    I am enormously happy to see that President Obama has taken this position, candidly--well, semi-candidly, anyway--not because I agree with him on this matter (I do not!), but because it is likely to be a political loser for him in November.

    On the plus side (from President Obama's standpoint), this may tend to fire up his left-leaning base. And that could be moderately helpful to him.

    But the countervailing point (and this is far more important, in my opinion) is that it is likely to lose important votes for him in swing states. For instance, North Carolina, just Tuesday night, approved an amendment to the state constitution prohibiting same-sex marriage. And the vote was not at all close. In fact, the final tally, I believe, was 61 percent to 39 percent.

    Moreover, President Obama has attempted to split the baby on this matter, in a way that is intellectually dishonest, in my opinion: He is "personally" in favor of same-sex marriage; yet he believes that the decision, ultimately, should be left to the individual states. Or so he says, anyway. (Note: President Obama is hardly the first politician to attempt this Solomonic wizardry: Those who dutifully proclaim that they are "personally" opposed to the procedure of abortion, but believe it should be kept legal, are surely first cousins...)
     
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    [video=youtube;vhaThnPWB0A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vhaThnPWB0A[/video]

    In 2004 Obama was all for civil unions, but not same sex marriage.

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    Obama flip flops more than a freshly caught Mackerel on a boat deck.
     
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    Probably not.

    Because while the Republican Party led by a President Romney and the old Republicans bulls in Washington may be for big government Democrats are for bigger government.

    And I'll vote for the least government I can get every time.
     
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    We are in the middle of transmitting that memo right now. Dick Lugar just got it. In 2010 63 Representatives and 6 Senators got the memo. Mitt Romney has been sounding very conservative lately. He's not moving left at all. On the contrary, he's been moving right.

    Wisconsin has heard it loud and clear!
     
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    How can you trust a flip-flopping big government statist to sign your bills? Once he's used your vote to get to the White House he doesn't need you anymore.

    And for that matter, how do you know that he won't also be signing the bills the Neocons and Dominionists put forward?
     
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    Weird, because I'm sure there were some democrats thinking the samething about Obama, when they cast their vote for him.

    And, yet he's broke about every promise he's made to them.
    So why turn around and follow their example?

    When did principal and consistency become such a political liability?
     
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    So you aren't actually in support of improving the country.

    You just want the guy (*)(*)(*)(*)ing up the nation to be one of your guys.
     
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    Here, let me simplify this for you, Q....sort of an addendum to The Unbubba's comment...
    Presidents come and go.....their Supreme Court appointments last until retirement or death....another 4 years of Obama may very well present another opportunity for him to stack the bench with progressive leftist legislators
     
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    YES

    even Obama said he was a one term president if he can't turn the economy around! My wife and I voted for Obama and will both vote for Romney this time for the sole reason that 40 million people need jobs and Obama is saying "no" to jobs and even going so far as to demonize corporations as evil greedy republicans. Obama needs to quit playing class warfare and own up to the fact that his leadership is hindering economic growth.

    Our choice is to get rid of Obama or continue to have a faltering economic recovery.

    Obama asked you to vote him out of office if he couldn't turn the economy around in 3 years so don't you want to follow his council and vote for Romney?
     
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    Romney is better than Obama. That does not make him good. Period.
     
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    Only if more Justices retire. It doesn't look like that is going to happen in the next four years.
     
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