The Terrible Tale Of When The Rich Begin To Look, as they do on the inside.

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  1. Jack Napier

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    My mother taught me this expression as I was growing up - 'the love of money is the root of all evil'.

    And the line is right, at least to a large part.

    We can see how that very thinking, that love of unlimited wealth, by the already so rich that they could never spend it, has been responsible for the many wars and economic crashes, over the last 100 yrs alone.

    And never is it more evident today, for you know as I do that if the main export of Iraq been brussel sprouts, or had Libya owned 2% of the World's onions, the rich elites would never have manufactured reasons to carve those countries up.

    They do not share this stolen wealth btw, oh no, don't be silly, you only get told that doing it is the right thing, then they make you up a story, to assist you in forgetting about it.

    But to treat money as a god, or to believe that money and what it can buy, elevates you to god like status, is a very dangerous mental state.

    For others that cross their path, but also to themselves.

    Think about all the very worthy things that exist today, perhaps in your city.

    Something you think would benefit from funding.

    Something that tries to do go for the community, yet is often frustrated by lack of cash.

    Now hold that thought and tell me if you think $60,000 would be welcomed?

    How about $547,000?

    And who else but a lover of money, someone for whom an altar would be a large pile of cash, would spend the first sum on a phone bill, and the second on wine?

    Is that not the product of a vulgar society, gone wrong?

    Does this not offend any right minded person, esp as is usually the case, the person that make money their god, they tend not to earn it by skill or making something, but by devious means, the means of a rat.

    In their gross vulgarity, some lose it entirely, and the grostesque case of Jocelyn Wildenstein best evidences this.

    Not only is she sick, but tragic, the logical conclusion to what one becomes, when they lose all touch with reality, and are 100% empty inside.

    But also it must be a harsh judgement on the profiteers who pass themselves off as 'doctors', who must have put $$$ before their patient, knowing that they were turning her into a freak, but this is what happens with profit you see, it does not care.

    Jocelyn Wildenstein is a New York socialite known for extensive facial surgeries.

    An extravagant life (she once enumerated her yearly telephone bill at $60,000 and food/wine costs at $547,000.

    Jocelyn Wildenstein was married to Alec Wildenstein when they were both in their 30s.

    Alec was a member of the Wildenstein family – a wealthy family of renowned art dealers.

    The divorce was not amicable, and has been described as "scandalous".

    Jocelyn walked in on Alec Wildenstein and a 19 year old Russian model in her bedroom at the Wildenstein New York home, and was threatened by Alec with a gun.

    The presiding judge, Marilyn Diamond, received death threats in the mail during the proceedings.

    The marital home in New York was later sold by Ms. Wildenstein to real estate developer Janna Bullock for 13 million dollars.

    She received $2.5 billion in the divorce settlement and $100 million each year for 13 years after.

    Jocelyn Wildenstein has had extensive cosmetic surgery to her face over the years, creating a "very unnatural appearance."

    intended to elicit a more catlike look, according to her husband. This was apparently done to please her husband, who loved big cats.

    [video=youtube;VjNjTPQVSYQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjNjTPQVSYQ[/video]
     
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    Sad to see this stuff, I suppose.
     
  3. Jack Napier

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    Gross.

    On more than one level.

    Her warped and distorted face is almost a manifestation of what is inside.

    Or rather, it is the manifestation of what happens when a women with too much $$$, which she did not earn + parastical doctors, who would take the money of anyone, and do anything to them, as long as they made a buck.

    Now, here's something to pause over.

    It's all too easy for Americans, and others in the West, but esp American on the right, to laugh and mock other cultures, even though really they are in no position to. They are ignorant. They think that all the women in Iran go around wearing the Burkah, or they think that Africa is a country.

    Yet, imagine you were part of one of those other cultures, and saw this as a representation of an American 'socialite' (rich waster).

    What would you think of the society that spawned such things, and of course, in a similar content, Michael Jackson?

    Jack
     
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    You're seeing why the world doesn't quite love America.
     
  5. Jack Napier

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    Well, not per se.

    The reason why the international community doesn't like America is due to it's foreign policy.

    And one specific part of it in particular.

    I feel quite confident that if the US withdrew their support for international bandits, stopped invading and occupying other countries, ceased torturing, raping, and murdering, and urinating on people, that there is a wee chance people might start to see the US as something other than living proof of absolute power corrupting, absolutely.

    It's a bit out there, and I know it's asking a lot for them to stop acting like that.

    If they did, then the rest of the world, and that includes one billion Muslims, they would not give a hoot how many freaks in America, with too much money, want to make themselves look like a cat.

    Nor would they care about Disneyland.

    And they would not care if the whole of America got so fat on MacDonalds, that Peter Griffin would be seen as anorexic, and if Americans continued to want to drive around in the gas guzzling SUV piece of crap.

    There.

    How about that for a road map to peace?

    Stop supporting Zionist terrorism by misuse of the veto, and stop murdering people, and raping kids.

    Stop trying to force a Zionist media culture and consumer culture onto those that do not wish it.

    Stop producing training programmes for future US military, in which mass murder of tens of millions is spoken about as standard.

    That is part of the reason that the Zionist hates the lands that are mainly unspoiled by their filth and degradation.
     
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    Jack. These people earned their money or their families left it to them and it is their right to spend it however they wish. It seems to me that your displeasure with them comes from envy and your own greed and sense of self righteousness since you don't have what they have. Them's the breaks. Make the best of your own life and don't covet what others have.
     
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    I think it's both. The images of the gluttonous American make it into the headlines worldwide. Coming from someone who grew up in Italy, it's essentially the ultimate insult. Silvio was actually compared to one in my city's paper, much to his own dismay.

    Invading nations and being a puppet for certain groups is, of course, a major part of it too.

    It's unfortunate they miss the nicer side of America.
     
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    one doesn't have to have money in order to have a love of it.

    speaking of which. An Ows-er was on hannity last week and hannity was going to help him get a job. The guy was unemployed and he would entertain NO job unless he started at 80,000 plus, preferably plus. Actually, i really don't think he wants a job ever. What he does want is to have everything that he wants to be paid for by.......the banks and education and business. total ignoramus.
     
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    I wouldn't take a job under 80k either if I were ever unemployed. Some people have standards.
     
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    Well, no, actually, in her case, she screwed her's out of a rich husband, and that was likely her intention, all along.

    Envy?

    Of her?

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    Ha ha.

    You're too funny.

    And you cannot even see why, can you?
     
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    Ah, and from your userame, I would guess you love football right?

    Anyway, no, I don't really think the World cares about how fat Americans get.

    What makes them the object of hate, if hate be the right word, is the like of what is written on post 33, here

    http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...repare-declare-nuclear-holocaust-islam-4.html

    Whaddya think...would you hate those that did that?

    I know I would.
     
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    I call BS on the concept that they earned anything.

    Over the last 40 or so year, taxes and regulations on the well to do have been unfairly changed to benefit them. They bought congressmen, both democrat and republican to build these ill gotten gains will contributing little percentage wise back to the government that allowed them to become so filthy rich.

    Taxes for the very wealthy should be at least the same PERCENTAGE as the tax brackets below them, and there should be a removal of most tax breaks for people making over a million dollars per year. Sorry, if you are that well off, you can shoulder a bit more of the burden. You don't deserve an easier ride just because you have big bucks.

    Simple reality is that Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely.

    According to recent court decisions, money = free speech. Then more money = the louder speech. Louder Speech = More Power.

    How can conservatives abide by this? Do they really think just because someone has buttloads of money that their speech should trump the rest of the nation's?
     
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    Indeed it is. It is the love of money that causes people who see themselves as "have nots" to steal money from people who have more than them. And in cases of group protest such as Occupy Wall Street, it causes them to riot, disrupt society, and vandalize businesses owned by people they do not even know. If not for their love of money they would not be doing these things. But I'm noticing that you're not condemning these people the same way you're condemning the rich. Why could that be? Did you just forget or is it simply another double standard?

    Either hold everyone to the same standard or stop being preachy. Your selective finger wagging at the rich shows that it is not the behavior, itself, that really bothers you but rather the group engaging in the behavior. Which makes your objections nothing more than....... say it with me...... class envy. Congratulations, you've just unwittingly proven your mom right. Your very own love of money is the root of your evil attitude toward wealthy people. How does it feel to be a hypocrite?



    Then you shouldn't complain that you're broke. Because you're choosing your poverty.

    This is what separates you from successful people. Your ego is tripping you up. A successful person will make the best of whatever options are available at the time and continue to seek upward mobility. If flipping burgers is the only opportunity at the moment, they'll take it. And then they'll look for something better from there. For whatever reason, you seem to think that if you take a job, you are married to it for life. And so you can't accept anything below X standard. You have to be more adaptable than that if you want to succeed at life.
     
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    I wouldn't be broke. So that's well enough.

    I consider myself successful, so I suppose it doesn't and it makes you wrong.
     
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    Apparently.

    Pretty vulgar if that is what it has come to.
     
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    If that is ALL you took from the ethos behind that, then you entirely miss the point.

    And mine also.

    I would not kill for money.

    Or take from another for money.

    That is what your political, banking and corporate elite do.

    Not me.

    Because they are driven by love of money.

    And I'm not.

    See?
     
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    No, we're not going to play that game. Go back and re-read what I posted and then take an honest look at what you are saying here. You are now playing with semantics to try to excuse the same behavior from one group that you condemn from another. Everything in this post is a dishonest attempt to weasel out of acknowledging your own greed. The very same greed that you claim makes other people so bad. You need to take a good long look in the mirror. Your self-awareness is terrible.
     
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    That statement could be ignorance or denial .
    It is far , far more than just Foreign policy -- or Invasion Planning as I call it .
    Your critics are far from one dimensional , but here is not the place for a wide ranging essay on the subject .
     
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    This is merely your (wrong) assumption, but if you are comfortable with that assumption, you stick with it.

    You just don't seem to understand that there are many more important things in life, than the pursuit of money.

    And I am sorry that you do not understand that, but your lack of understanding of that is not my fault.

    I have a place to live, I have food, I have heat, I am enriched by my family and friends.

    It is not me that orchestrates mass murder for financial gain.

    It is not me that cripples entire econommies, for the benefit of a few.

    It's not me who scams the tax payer and asks them all to bail me out.

    You should be angry.

    But not with me.

    But if it helps you to reconcile these injustices, by lashing out at me, go for it.

    If I had no empathy, no moral, and aspirations beyond accumulation of money, like those that I mentioned, I could likely earn ten or a thousand times as much as I do now.

    Since I am guessing you are into free enterprise, I could trade in large amounts of heroin or coke.

    And since I guess you would advocate 'less Gov meddling in enterprise', perhaps if I could traffic girls to sex offenders?

    I mean...both are still work, and require time and effort.

    So why would I not do them?

    You will say it is because they are illegal.

    Not so.

    The law does not need to tell me what my morals are.

    What would stop me is that I believe it important HOW someone makes money.

    And I would not wish to make ANY of the misery of other people.

    I am sorry that you cannot understand this.

    Jack
     
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    Okay, I'll bite.

    If it the 'foreign policy' of US elites is not the primary factor in why millions of ordinary people, worldwide, loathe your elites, what is it then?
     
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    I know someone just like that. He was out of work for years and finally took a job as a limo driver.
     
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    Should have just gotten a better job.
     
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    I believe the same of you except that i don't find you funny. I find you positively dangerous in your thinking.
     
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    And some people like to eat rather than starve.
     

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