Homosexuality...does it cause harm???

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  1. King of Fishers Island

    King of Fishers Island New Member

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    You've shown nothing which supports your Mockery

    The USA placed and places people with serious diseases into isolation wards.. for a reason.

    Cuba solved its AIDS problem by isolating any Cubans with AIDS from the rest of the Cuban population

    You'll never run across reports by PhD's on the Causes of SSAD within publications peddled by the smallish homosexual-centric community;

    AND? These reports exist.. And no amount of Whining or Mockery or Ad Hominems can eradicate or debunk their findings..

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    Let's get one thing straight..

    HomoPhobe is a Phony Term.. (Phobia/Fear of Homos)..

    The only fear of homos that I've ever witnessed
    relates to not wanting to catch HIV from a carrier;
    the largest percentages of which - are homosexual males.

    HIVPhobes abound, most especially amongst male homosexuals.

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  3. Johnny-C

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    What makes you think it is "Mockery"; I think you need to pay better attention to reality.

    That is foolishness. What the hell are you suggesting? Sounds disgusting to me.

    Take your anti-gay biased distortions and stifle them; HERE is what Cuba is doing overall.

    You are supporting claims from NARTH; that doesn't afford you the credibility you might imagine.

    Homosexuality is not a disease. That is common knowledge, based upon the most credible science the world can muster.
     
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    Divorce may have a greater impact to undermine the nuclear family.
     
  5. Gaymom

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    YOUR tax money??? What about MY tax money that you have been using all these years???

    It's a silly argument and meaningless.

    We are as deserving of government rights as you are. You are not GIVING us anything.
     
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    Whatever are you babbling about???
     
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    Homophobe is just another name for ignorant hater. Is that a better definition for you???
     
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    You are causing harm by forcing others to be around you. I find homosexuality as a totally disgusting mentally sick, unnatural phenomenon and I am forced to tolerate you. If I don't, I will be called a "hater", "fascist", "suffering from homophobia", etc. So, thus, I will be hunted down by mass media, I will be fired from my work, so, this kind of discriminative actions against people who don't like gays are taken and people who don't like gays are targeted and bullied.
    Due to that, I can't say "no, I don't want to be around these people".
    If I own a company, I am forced to hire gays, because of "what if he will file charges against discrimination?" - this will force me to hire a gay people and not fire them, for this same reason. So, it makes gays a privileged class of people due to their sexual orientation.
    As for me to be around gay people is the same as to be around people who eat maggots or their own feces. They are sexual perverts.
    So, there is no freedom to stay away from people I don't like... Gays are pressing and exploiting "freedom" term and in the same time they are taking away a freedom from people who don't want to be around them.
     
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    You are causing harm by forcing others to be around you. I find homophobia and Christianity as totally disgusting mentally sick, unnatural phenomena and I am forced to tolerate you.

    (I think non-smokers also tend to regard smokers about like this)
     
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    Your commentary is disgusting, period.
     
  11. Gaymom

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    You use your total hideous distortion of gay people to justify your hate. What a very sad thing, when it would be so easy to find out that everything you believe is a lie.

    Have you ever wondered what is behind your need to believe as you do???
     
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    I bet this poster has more gay porn than all of California. That is not an ad hom but commentary on projection. People who spew the most disgusting insults towards gays are usually gay themselves, or at least bisexual.
     
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    It was first used to express heterosexual men's fear of being seeing as gay. It quickly morphed.

    Phobia is a fear but the substance is more akin to an irrational fear and that is the core of homophobia: it is irrational to treat gays as less than human, second or third class citizens, or blanket accuse them of all sorts of crimes.

    Using HIV to try and justify homophobia is the worst part. Basically, it comes from people smart enough to know it is wrong to be homophobic, but too immature to admit it. The internal conflict is temporarily subsided by trying to invent a legit reason for the bigotry.
     
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    Amazing decription. I hope you will allow me to quote you.
     
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    That is a bull (*)(*)(*)(*) lie told by queers to make themselves feel better. Because I think it's a filthy perversion does NOT mean I'm gay. DUH.
     
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    That was a very humbling compliment. Thank you and feel free to use it and improve it.
     
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    Normally I wouldn't point out I am a hetero, but in this case I will to show your assumption is without merit. I was merely observing the social pattern of overcompensation through denigrations, hell deep style. It's cool for you to not understand those who are different but the ignorance is not justification for hate.

    Your post can across as angry confetti swirling in the bowels of confusion and pain. It wasn't the lack of love for others that was so disturbing, it's that the hate was so palpable it's offspring would aways only be Hate. There must be a reason, and it cannot be due simply to the mere existence of people who are not in your fold of preference.
     
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    You continue to be wrong.. I ain't afeard of no homos..
     
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    How did you conclude that? Because you do not want to accept their findings?


    0r because some association you agree with attempted to debunk NARTH for reasons which do not hold water?

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    I wouldn't say it's always a case of a closeted homosexual projecting, but certainly some of the times. People generally don't care about homosexuality that much... if someone appears to be absolutely obsessed with fighting and demonizing homosexuals, it's usually for a particular reason... Projecting their self-hatred on someone else to compensate is a possibility. It's possible the person had a bad encounter with a particular homosexual, prompting a lasting and obsessive impression. There's got to be some reason for the obsession some take with demonizing homosexuals, none of which represent a "mentally healthy" individual IMO. Not saying everyone that opposes homosexuality is mentally ill or homophobic, but there are extremes where people are driven to obsession.
     
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    Seems there are two basic motivations for the ultra phobic on this issue. The first is as you described with projections of shame but within that group, there are also two categories: one represses the homosexuality out of the social stigma while the other does it out of self hate.

    The second largest motivation seems to be easy target convenience. Especially from the religious right. Homosexuality has been raised as the near pinnacle of all sins but it is not due to any personal or social harms. It is because heterosexuals who do not like themselves and refuse to address their own problems find great comfort in being able to tell themselves no matter how bad they mess up, at least they are not gay.

    Compared to envy, lust, jealousy, greed, pride, etc. Any one of those is infinitely more harmful to individuals and societies than homosexuality. Maybe things will get better when more Christians find out about that guy named Jesus?
     
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    Seems there are two basic motivations for the ultra phobic on this issue. The first is as you described with projections of shame but within that group, there are also two categories: one represses the homosexuality out of the social stigma while the other does it out of self hate.

    The second largest motivation seems to be easy target convenience. Especially from the religious right. Homosexuality has been raised as the near pinnacle of all sins but it is not due to any personal or social harms. It is because heterosexuals who do not like themselves and refuse to address their own problems find great comfort in being able to tell themselves no matter how bad they mess up, at least they are not gay.

    Compared to envy, lust, jealousy, greed, pride, etc. Any one of those is infinitely more harmful to individuals and societies than homosexuality. Maybe things will get better when more Christians find out about that guy named Jesus?
     
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    I wouldn't be able to speak for the size of one motivation vs another. projection being one, zelotry being another. I was hinting more at a third cause, where someone (or someone's family member) is attacked sexually by a male, with the hatred for the attacker being unfairly attributed to all homosexuals. Often the attacker has no strong preference for one gender victim vs another and is generally heterosexual, but it's an easy assumption to make that the attacker is homosexual if he attacks a male. PTSD that is brought on after violence, such as war or physical attacks can often cause you to mis-identify innocuous objects, sounds and people with superficial similarities for a real danger. The resulting paranoia can be debilitating.
     
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    That is a very good point as we have often seen the claim pedophiles are homosexual.
     
  25. Gaymom

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    Maybe not. It does mean you are an ignorant, hateful person though.
     
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