God will accept and embrace homosexuality .

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  1. John1735

    John1735 Banned Past Donor

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    You obviously either have rejected or not read this then:


    1 Corinthians 6:2 Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters? 3Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

    Yes contrary to your railing against judgement and discernment, it is the job of the Christian to discern and to judge. In fact discernment is listed as one of the gifts of the Holy Ghost.

    1 Corinthians 12:1 Now concerning spiritual gifts, brethren, I would not have you ignorant.

    2 Ye know that ye were Gentiles, carried away unto these dumb idols, even as ye were led.

    3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.

    4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.

    5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.

    6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.

    7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

    8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

    9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;

    10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

    11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.


    So which is it, since you claim Christ as your lord, are you ignorant of these scriptures in your claim of study of the scriptures, or do you either choose to ignore this scripture or simply choose to disobey it? Or do you retract your claims and admit you are in error?
     
  2. BFSmith@764

    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    So what you are saying is that all sorts of sins should be tolerated in the Church and let Jesus sort it out in the end? Husbands and wives can cheat on each other in the Church, we can covet what belongs to others, get drunk and use drugs? Children can be disobedient to their parents, the pastor can go gambling with Church money? All this and more can go on in the Church, because Jesus said we should not condemn anyone?

    Ok, so when a man maried his father's wife and Paul critisised not only him but the Church for tolerating it you are saying Paul was wrong for saying he should be put out of the Church? You believe that Paul was wrong for condemning fornication?

    1 Corinthians 5:1-6 (ASV)
    1 It is actually reported that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not even among the Gentiles, that one of you hath his father's wife.
    2 And ye are puffed up, and did not rather mourn, that he that had done this deed might be taken away from among you.
    3 For I verily, being absent in body but present in spirit, have already as though I were present judged him that hath so wrought this thing,
    4 in the name of our Lord Jesus, ye being gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus,
    5 to deliver such a one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
    6 Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
     
  3. cupid dave

    cupid dave Well-Known Member

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    It will save more Homosexual lives than straights...

    The homosexuals right now have lowered their life expectancy by 20 years, and if tattoos are used, they will spot danger beore they are tricked into trouble.
     
  4. Gaymom

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    And what is that will???

    Love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, mind, and soul, and your neighbor as yourself.

    That's it.
     
  5. RiseAgainst

    RiseAgainst Banned

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    If you love the lord you will obey him.

    depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’
     
  6. Gaymom

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    And the love you spread each day will make the difference. That is the SOMETHING that you must do.
     
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    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    :laughing: No.
     
  8. Gaymom

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    "For this very reason, Christ died and returned to life so that He might be The Lord of both the dead and the living. You, then, why do you judge your brother? Or why do you look down on your brother? For we will all stand before God's judgment seat. It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says The Lord, 'every knee will bow before Me; every tongue will confess to God.'"

    "So then, each of us will give an account of himself to God. Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another." (Romans 14:1-13)
     
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    Your answer does not match my post.

    ????????
     
  10. RiseAgainst

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    There is a difference between passing judgment and exposing false teachings.
     
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    Yes it does. You think you can ignore the moral laws of the Lord and call yourself a believer.

    Belief is an ACTION.
     
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    Romans 14:1-13 has nothing to do with sin......it was not sin that was being addressesed. Some members were judging other members wrongfully on things that had nothing to do with sin.....they were judging each other on food.....that scripture is prettily self-explanatory about what it is talking about.

    Also, there is a difference between condemning and judging.
     
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    That is Old Testament Law, the sum of what the Torah and prophets say.

    Christ saves because he is Truth, personified.
    It is Truth which can teach you to practice the Law in your heart.


    John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the truth, the way, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

    In other words, this politically correct nonsense about love everyone as if to ignore the evil people who have no intention of loving anyone misleads the christian today.



    Truth is our Lord.

    Here, i9n regard to Tattoos, the Truth is that we need the yet uninfected person so much as to curtail the privileges and freedom of AIDS Carriers who hid and refuse to be identified, or let the CDC investigators track down sex partners of newly discovered AIDS infeted Homosexuals.
    Those people, if we love them, need ne reached before they also pass AIDS on.

    That is the Truth, saving souls in action.
     
  14. The Wyrd of Gawd

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    That story sounds like a remake of Reuben and Bilhah from Genesis 35:22 (NLT) = While he was living there, Reuben had intercourse with Bilhah, his father’s concubine, and Jacob soon heard about it.

    Jacob didn't do squat about it until he was ready to croak. He then put the badmouth on Reuben.

    Genesis 49:2-4 (NLT) = Come and listen, you sons of Jacob; listen to Israel, your father. “Reuben, you are my firstborn, my strength, the child of my vigorous youth. You are first in rank and first in power. But you are as unruly as a flood, and you will be first no longer. For you went to bed with my wife; you defiled my marriage couch.

    Notice that Paul kept mum about the father having multiple wives. He didn't consider that to be adulterous. But he goes off on a rant about other sexual relationships.

    Just think: if a lion had eaten Paul in the arena maybe we wouldn't be shackled to First Century thinking.
     
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    You and your nonsense again......I'm done correcting your errors.
     
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    Here's another scripture telling newly Gentile converts to abstain from fornication. You don't tell people to abstain from somthing if it is good, and if its not good, then you are making a judgment about that behavior and saying it is wrong to do it.

    Acts 15:20 (KJV)
    20 But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.

    God's people are being judged now, and not when Jesus returns.

    1 Peter 4:17-18 (NKJV)
    17 For the time has come for judgment to begin at the house of God; and if it begins with us first, what will be the end of those who do not obey the gospel of God?
    18 Now "If the righteous one is scarcely saved, Where will the ungodly and the sinner appear?"

    There is no judgment for Christians when Jesus returns......Jesus is coming with rewards for them.
     
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    Jesus is going to be angry when he reads that comment.

    Matthew 5:44 (NKJV) = But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you,
     
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    Perhaps apart from Gaymom, I can't think of any self-proclaimed Christian on this board who matches that verse.

    But that's understandable, too, since most of the Bible is devoted to intolerance and punishment.
     
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    Do you think you can fool God with that nonsense??? There is no difference.
     
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    Do you think you can fool God with your false teachings?
     
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    Yes, it is. Do you show your love for God and your neighbor???

    Real, unconditional, non-judgemental love???
     
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    Teaching and following the word of God is loving yourself and others.
     
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    Hypocrite.

    You set your self up as judge and jury against the Commandments of Christ.
     
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    What about this?

    Ephesians 5:11 (KJV)
    11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them.
     
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    Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.John 8:44
     
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