Western Religion does not understand God

Eastern religions are accepting of Jesus and hold him in an authoritative state. Conservative Christianity? "Nah, the philosophies of love are the work of the devil."

 

Now WHY would they do that do you think?

I'm sorry. Conservative Christianity's philosophy of love?? is the work of the devil? what?

 

Because Jesus was one of a series of reincarnations?

Or is there actually a conspiracy on the part of the devil to confuse of with philosophies of Love?

 

that's ridiculous.

why do you believe all this other bs and you won't put ANY credence in the Bible.

 

If Jesus claimed He was the son of God, creator of the universe, was born of a Virgin, came in the flesh to save mankind - either He was who He says - or He was a raving frigging lunatic.

How does one "hold him in an authoritative state" without believing He was who He said He was?

How do you say you respect someone for their really coolio teachings about love but yet would have him committed for who He says he is?

Ya can't have it both ways. You either believe He was God or He was a totally insane fruitcake. If the former, well then you're a Christian. If the latter, and you "respect His teachings", well then that makes you one messed up individual, doesn't it?

 

That's completely incorrect. The guy could have been nuts AND had some good ideas at the same time. The two are not mutually exclusive.

 

Because they do not contradict their own thoughts and texts and do not require a hierarchy establishment to tell me what to think.

It is not so much I do not put any credence in the Bible, I am simply more than willing to point out the things that make little or no sense and contradict observations. The suspension of logic and reason should not be a requirement for belief, your brand of Christianity however, does require the suspension of logic and reason to maintain belief.

 

Buddhists hold Jesus in an authoritative position because they beliefs he was the reincarnation of an enlightened soul.

I am not sure if I believe that, however it makes far more sense than God creating rules the He Himself knew that Man would break and falter on before Man faltered, so then He decided the best way to remedy this was to send Himself down as His own Son so that he may sacrifice Himself to Himself to convince Himself to change the rules that He Himself put into place in the first place full well knowing that He himself would have to change them anyway.

The idea of conscience being decentralized and existing everywhere, collapsing on living and thinking entities, and death and rebirth being a continuation of consciences poses far fewer fear based control of thought and actions, contradictions, paradoxes, and non-nonsensical bits than that of the Bible.

 

How about just recognizing that Truth must be our "god," since mankind depends upon his thinking as the sole coping skill he has for his eternal survival as a species.

Once you do that, the facts will allow you to discern the Truth, renounce the Gay drive to advertise sex as a focus for one's life, and stop indoctrinatingthe next generation with ideas and behaviors which drag the adolescences into pre-matital sexual relationships.

Face the fact that the sex hormones hit hard and fast befoe any society can really adequately prepare the next generation for dealing with the Drive that draws them together fpr the procreation that will come from such activities.
Straight and Gay people ought do whatever they do behind closed doors, and think about the destructive effects of promoting Sex in general, as a behavior that openly endorsed and unregulated.

You DO know that Single Mothers are now 50% of all Fmilies, and that Fatherless kids are abused by every social problem in country, right???





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Statistics on Fatherlessness
CHILDREN NEED BOTH PARENTS

It’s a Fact
Here’s why:

63% of youth suicides are from fatherless homes. (Source: U.S. D.H.H.S., Bureau of the Census).

90% of all homeless and runaway children are from fatherless homes.

85% of all children that exhibit behavioral disorders come from fatherless homes.
(Source: Center for Disease Control).

80% of rapist motivated by displaced anger come from fatherless homes. (Source:
Criminal Justice and Behavior, Vol. 14, pp. 403-26).

71% of all high school dropouts come from fatherless homes. (Source: National Principals Assoc. Report on the State of High Schools).

85% of all youths sitting in prisons grew up in a fatherless home. (Source: Fulton County Georgia jail populations, Texas Dept. Of Corrections, 1992).

These statistics translate to mean that children from fatherless homes are:

5 times more likely to commit suicide
32 times more likely to run away
20 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
14 times more likely to commit rape
9 times more likely to drop out of high school
20 times more likely to end up in prison


Children from fatherless homes are*:

Children from "fatherless families of single mother" homes are*:

• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 4.6 times more likely to commit suicide
• 6.6 times more likely to become teenaged mothers
• 24.3 times more likely to run away
• 15.3 times more likely to have behavioral disorders
• 6.3 times more likely to be in a state-operated institutions
• 10.8 times more likely to commit rape
• 6.6 times more likely to drop out of school
• 15.3 times more likely to end up in prison while a teenage
• 73% of adolescent murderers come from mother only homes
• 6.3 times more likely to be in state operated institutions


Daughters who live in mother only homes are 92% more likely to divorce**

 

the Bible does not contradict itself. Now man contradicts it and confuses you because really, you do not understand what it is you are reading. I'm sorry to do this to you but can you tell me one place where you believe it contradicts itself. I can guarantee that it is you that does not understand.

 

Come on. You're not touted as one of the greatest teachers in history for thousands of years for having "some good ideas". Much less, professing out of the other side of your mouth that you created everything that exists and hold the world in your hands while everyone laughingly says "This is one fcked up dude, but he has some good ideas. Let's immortalize him!"

 

In one Resurrection account Mary did not talk to the Roman soldiers and there was one angel.
In another Resurrection account Mary talked to Roman soldiers and there were multiple angels.

Blatant contradiction.

 

Soooooooo.... Christianity prevents all of this? LOL

 

Can you post the books, chapters and verse please.

 

Here is a whole list of contradictions you can play with.
http://www.answering-christianity.com/contra_res.htm

This is more specific.
http://atheism.about.com/od/gospelcontradictions/p/EmptyTomb.htm

 

Jesus isn't touted as one of the greatest teachers in history. He's touted as the figurehead of one of the biggest religions in history. There's a difference, and if he had not had the whole "son of God" thing going for him, he may have very well ended up like Buddha, whom he emulates in a lot of aspects already. He was immortalized because people believed he was the son of God. He's not the only figure from antiquity that we still know of and talk about today, and many of the others are not known because they were the son of God. Socrates and Aristotle come to mind immediately. Whether those two believed in God(s) doesn't matter, because they are not remembered for their religious views, they are remembered for their contributions to science and philosophy.

Citing the fact that people know who Jesus is and that some believe he's the son of God is anecdotal coincidental evidence because there's not one shred of even halfways credible proof that he was. The only way proof exists is if you "faith" it into existence, but we both know "faith" is not a valid form of evidence for anything other than the fact that you have a faith in something.

So basically, you can believe Jesus was just a man AND respect the ideas that he championed. Most of them have absolutely no reliance on the existence of a God to be good ideas.

 

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oh my. LOL. These are four different gospels by four men who were reporting on the life, death and resurrection of Christ. You(and article) nit pik about names and the color of the sky. YET, there is not contradiction no outrage that Christ was resurrected. I find that stunning. don't you?

 

A text divinely inspired would not contradict itself.

I would assume a deity capable of creating all time and space would have the ability to prevent such contradictions from occurring.

http://atheism.about.com/od/gospelcontradictions/p/EmptyTomb.htm

So which accounts are correct and which accounts are incorrect?

 

Guess you've never heard of the Jews.

 

WHICH "Bible"?

 

Well, that's moot, because the Jews don't believe Jesus is divine, if I remember correctly.

 

What do we have here? My mistake, I thought I was browsing the humor section of the forums.
Well, since it's already a (*)(*)(*)(*)storm, here's to that OP

 

Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all eastern religions.

Sciencetology and Wicca are the two primary western religions.

 

Mocking Abrahamic beliefs is like mocking moon landing hoax belief.

 

Even Wicca isn't as silly as Christianity, methinks. They have some kind of god and goddess, probably originally derived from some animistic idea of the sun and moon, same as all gods seem to be. Animism is primitive or proto religion, the simple belief that there are spirits or similar agents in the natural world, both in living creatures and non-living things, rather like Yoda's description of the Force in The Empire Strikes Back. From there came gods and demons in the more developed forms that have managed to survive into the modern day. It goes to show that no matter how far we come in terms of science and reason, human beings are still primitive animals, not quite able to rid themselves of vestigial superstitions.