The Republican and Democrat Nominees for 2016

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  1. custer

    custer New Member

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    Call me naive for looking down the road....

    Trying to get a jist of who might be running for both parties in 2016, as the conventions had some interesting personalities.

    For the Democrats, who will pick up Obama's banner?

    For the Republicans, how easy will it be to replace Romney?

    Thoughts?
     
  2. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush.......Bet on it!
     
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    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hillary Clinton vs Jeb Bush.......Bet on it!
     
  4. StephenKnight

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    For Democrats, we may see Rahm Emmanuel run, Debbie W. Schultz, maybe Elizabeth Warren, but the presumptive front-runner on the Democratic side will be New York Governor Andrew Cuomo. Personally I'd like to see Evan Bayh (D-Indiana) run again.

    EDIT: I DON'T think Hillary will run in 2016. She'll simply be too old. She'll be 69 years old. She's already said that after Obama's term expires she's gonna step down as SecState and retire from public office.

    The Republican side has a whole score of people, once again, ready for 2016 (or 2020 if Romney serves two terms). These include Rick Santorum, Marco Rubio, Paul Ryan (definitely the presumptive nominee if Romney wins in 2012), Chris Christie if he's still around, Jeb Bush might get into the race, Ted Cruz might take a whack at it, and Rick Perry might be tempted to try again. Maybe Michelle Bachmann as well. But my personal favorite would be New Mexico Governor Susana Martinez. Oh, and S.C. Governor Nikki Haley could take a shot at the White House. And again, personally I am supporting Romney this year, but I think Romney should be a one-term President. He was a one-term Governor, he should be a one-term President, in the spirit of Rutherford B. Hayes, Calvin Coolidge and Lyndon B. Johnson. He should focus entirely on turning the country around, in one term, and then step aside for someone else.
     
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    If Obama wins now there probably won't be a 2016 election. He'll either make himself King, or disban the government. I trust him to screw us while his wife smirks.
     
  6. custer

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    I don't think Obama would do that. Seems unreasonable.
     
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    Perriquine On hiatus Past Donor

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    Rahm Emmanuel? Please, no.
     
  8. StephenKnight

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    Another potential Democratic candidate for President in 2016: Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown.

    He's liberal enough to appeal to the party's base, has been around a while, and is from a key battleground state.

    I can't say if he has Presidential ambitions though.
     
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    Most Democrats think exactly alike. The reason Obama won was because he could say he alone opposed the invasion of Iraq (when he was an Illinois state Representative and no one cared) and they didn't.
    If Hillary runs she will once again keep good people out of the race, going against candidates too old to wait four more years, so young they're not planning to win or so obscure they will get little attention, and, of course, Dennis Kucinich.
    If Romney wins the only one who might challenge him is Rand Paul. If Romney has two successful terms Ryan will begin the 2020 race as such a prohibitive favorite that most potential winners will stay home, with a token challenge from a left-wing Republican or two.
     
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    My expectation is that with Citizens United, both parties will pick a crony capitalist stooge. that is why I am with the Green Party.

    And by the way, in any state that is not in play I suggest the voters go with the third party they most favor. Like here in CA, I can vote Green Party knowing the state will go Democratic. In Texas the real right can vote a Tea Party candidate knowing the GOP will take the state. At least by voting for our third parties we keep our integrity by not voting for the lesser of two evils. We can actually like our candidates, not settle.
     
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    The poll numbers on various websites seem to show Hillary vs Rand Paul.
     
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    I don't care about all the preliminaries, Hillary will be your next president. The Republicans will make clowns of themselves again.
     
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    The Democrats will run another right of center candidate as they always do and if they win, they'll act surprised and upset when their new president acts just like a Republican president would. They'll also complain about those of us who vote third party rather than hold our noses, close our eyes, and pretend that this time things will be different.
     
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    I probably shouldn't say this since I am trying to be a more reasonable and humane person, but I'm hoping Lindsey Graham gets the Republican nomination. I need a good laugh. That man is a big mouthed nut job such is seldom seen outside 4 a.m. talk radio.
     
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    Oh come on... for laughs you cant beat Louie Ghomert (r) of Texas ...this dude is like an Ill tempered neo-con version of Joe Biden.... Ghomert in 2016!!!
     
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    I'm not familiar with that one, I'll have to check him out. :smile:


    Edit:

    *Finds terror babies youtube video*

    *boggles*

    I was telling someone the other day that I'm really not politician material. Not much of a people person. And I admit, I have a bad rant habit I'm working on. But this guy gives me hope for the Presidency or possibly just outright world takeover. If this guy can get elected I'm quite sure I can.

    Oh wait, I bet he has rich friends.

    Damn.
     
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    And Republicans don't? Give me a break.
     
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    Why do I get the feeling "CoolWalker" has left PF or changed his nick and avatar now?

    :)
     
  19. jackdog

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    wild guess but Christie for the GOP and Biden for the Dems, assuming they can keep Biden from making more of an ass of himself than he normally does. If it was not for the Benghazi fiasco Hillary in a walk for the Dems but her 3AM phone call credibility is now destroyed

    Bloomberg or Elizibeth Warren might make a run for the blue seat ...time will tell
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wild guess, Christie vs. Clinton, with Christie winning.
     
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    jackdog Well-Known Member

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    I cant even see Hillary even making a run for the Democratic nomination at this point. Biden might try for it, Bloomberg maybe ? Got to admit Christie is positioning himself for a successful run for the GOP however
     
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    I don't think Jeb is going to run in 2016. If he ever does run it will probably be 2020 or 2024. This decision is likely based on the polls that say that voters on both sides are unwilling to vote for another Bush. I would bet that Chris Christie is going to take on Hillary. If the economy doesn't show significant improvements by 2016 he has as shot at winning even though his brand isn't as solid as Hillary's.
     
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    I thought the GOP hated Christie after the hurricane Sandy fling with Obama.
     
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    Until Benghazi I would have said Hillary for the Democrats but I am doubtful now. Who knows with the Republicans. Hopefully they don't have as many clowns this time around. Jindal, Christie maybe even Rubio. I kind of like that doctor guy who (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)slapped Obama at the breakfast. The guy has a list of accomplishments a mile long and he isn't a career politician which is a bonus in my book.

    People that hate on Christie because he complimented Obama on his actions in Katrina are myopic idiots who don't understand the first thing about responsibility. The governors first priority is his own state and if that means that you have to to a little kissing up to the boss (Feds are in charge of how the money is spent so they are the boss) then so be it. In fact I would have been alot more concerned if Christie took all the aid and then turned around and started ripping into Obama. Politics should not be injected into natural disasters. People that complained about politics being injected into Katrina are doing the exact same thing this time around.
     
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    Does anyone know how much money the US gave New Jersey for their troubles? Does anyone know if Obama did anything unusual to get him extra help? Does anyone know if New Jersey got money that might have gone to other states that suffered from superstorm Sandy?
    The scandal could destroy several careers.
    The problem with Christie is he won't win Iowa (where Rand Paul and Mike Huckabee have solid support, and would lose New Hampshire to a local favorite like Scott Brown, Siuth Carolina to any strong southern candidate (such as Bush or Huckabee), Florida to Bush or Rubio, Nevada to Rubio and the rest of the south to the last southerner standing. Even if no New Englander joins the race, a victory in New Hampshire followed by a string of losses does not make a strong candidacy.
    Huckabee is the only candidate who might win Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina in a race with at least three serious candidates. The more candidates there are the better his chances get, since he can steal from almost everyone just on likability.
    If Paul wins all three somehow, Christie, regardless of his position in the race at that point, suddenly becomes the establishment candidate needed to save the party, but no candidate has come back from a three-state deficit since primaries became important in choosing delegates.
    Christie's best strategy would be to bribe a semi-serious southerner into entering the race and throwing everything into winning South Carolina while specifically targeting Paul and whoever wins Iowa. If Rubio and Bush are not in the race and that southerner and Christie finish one-two in Florida it will cut off Paul's southern advantage. Paul will still win rural states in that three-way race, but without the south he'll slowly fall behind Christie while the other wins only the south.
    Even then the delegate count may not be decisive when the last primary is over, but at least Paul won't win.
    If Huckabee is in it however he won't stop no matter what and should take the deep south. Christie's accomplice won't give Christie a win anywhere in the south, but can keep him narrowly in first place.
    Christie's best ally is the press, which will try to make fourth in Iowa and third in New Hampshire sound like victories. That worked for Clinton. However the press will still give twice as much attention to the Democratic race, so the only real GOP headlines will be when one of them says something stupid.
     

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