Why god invented alcohol..

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  1. charliedk

    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    Drinking is the only way to deal with morons: Smart people "booze so we can tolerate everyone else," says Greg at Food & Wine Blog. When sober, we tend to "take people’s responses at literal face value." But after a few drinks, "we can relax a bit, stop being so anal with semantics and let comments slide a bit..
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    that's what I do when I read the religious posts here..it helps me get through the pain..thank you god wherever you may be..fermentation was one of your greatest achievements..
     
  2. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I used to love a few Pusser's rum and cokes while grilling out. Or a few Sam Adams Boston Lagers. It took the edge off of life. Sadly, I no longer imbibe.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    There are those that don't need a drink in order to deal with life and at the same not allow what other do and say that they don't like affect them negatively. The very ones that need a drink are the one that can't handle life…..they irrationally expect everyone to think and act the way they want them to....they are not the smart ones.
     
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    Alcohol, like many things on God's green earth, was merely an accidental discovery.
     
  5. dattaswami

    dattaswami New Member

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    God did not invented, but people invented from the inputs available. God has given independence to all the souls with a condition that whatever deeds one do will receive the fruits (results) in return. For good deed one will receive good results for bad, bad. Thus people have started doing all sorts of mixed deeds in their life cycle. You have underwent many many births to come to this present birth. The strong deeds have become your strong habits in this birth. Alcohol can be used for good purpose (some medicine etc) and also for bad thing like drinking. It is upto the particular person. Like on the cigarette packet it is written it is injurious to health. Like wise those suffering to day is due to their past deeds only. He is the responsible for his own state.

    Therefore never critisize God.

    Do not link your service to any fruit from God. Link the fruits to your own actions. Some times the actions fail and unexpected negative results appear. People think that a good deed has given a bad result and bad deed has given good result. Based on this, people doubt the existence of the divine system of cycle of deeds. Every action has its corresponding result after some time. The time gap may be even after this life. Some actions give results at once. If you put finger in the fire, it will burn immediately. But generally the actions are enquired by the divine system under the supervision of the God and the result of the action may be after the some time in this life or may be even after this life. The time gap is a decision of the judge and not yourself. You might have done some good deed and its result may be received after ten days on a particular day at 10.30 am.

    You might have done a bad deed on that day at 10.29 am and its results will be received at a particular time after some days. Now the observers think that the good result at 10.30am is the effect of the bad deed done at the 10.29 am. The observers criticize the divine system of God. This cycle of deeds is a very complicated multidimensional network system with so many parameters of time and place correlated with each other (Gahanaa Karmano Gathih….Gita). The superimpositions and coincidence of some actions and some other fruits mislead you to understand the intricate system. Except God no body can analyze this system of network. The deep analysis of all the parameters is impossible for a human brain. Therefore, never criticize the administration of God and unnecessarily earn the sin.
     
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    raymondo Banned

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    Why ?
    Will I be struck dead?
    Punished to eternity ?
    Listen , my good friend .If you choose to believe what you do , good luck . But stop telling us about your privileged insights .
    Like so many others , I am uninterested and privately find people like you weak and intellectually silly .
    But , each to their own , as long we respect each other's right not to be pestered .
     
  7. Jason Bourne

    Jason Bourne Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Us? Who is this "us" that you claim to represent?

    The pot calling the kettle black.


    Then why are you pestering?
     
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    dattaswami New Member

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    God created all the souls and has the attitude of father towards His children. The father sometimes may have partiality in showing the love equally to his children. But God is always having infinite love for all the souls in equal manner. Even the punishments in the hell are meant for transformation of the souls from lower level to the higher level. God always tries to help the soul even if a trace of possibility exists in the cycle of the deeds.

    One soul need not recommend about the other soul to God to show the grace. If somebody recommends to his father regarding the welfare of his brother, how foolish it looks! No soul should recommend to the God about other soul for protection or for showing the grace. If any soul recommends like that it is only insulting the infinite love of God. It is only the climax of the ignorance and the emotional love on the other soul, which lacks even the basic analysis of spiritual knowledge.
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    sorry, but you lost me dattaswami..my elevator only goes up so far and I'm the first person to admit it..

    however, according to all the religious folks here god has a hand in everything..put grapes in a tub and the sugars start to ferment and produce alcohol..if he knew it could get people drunk he should of figured this out since he's all knowing..or maybe he just wants us to party..
    there's magic mushrooms, peyote, marijuana and host of others that don't need any chemical transformation..
    for me it's much more spiritual then reading the bible or any religious teaches..some of you might be surprised and not be so narrow minded..
    I'm not a lush or a drug addict..I don't even take aspirin..
    I use to experiment in my youth but now just stick to beer and fine 12 year old kentucky bourbon when the mood strikes or a good bottle of wine with family and friends..
    it's just that I find some of the religious posts here are so mind boggling I can't stop reading them even though I want to..I can't control my fascination on what the lives of some of these folks must be like and their preoccupation with god..sorry, I don't mean to offend anyone..everyone has the right to believe in what they want as long as it doesn't cause harm to others..
    2 or 3 beers while reading through some of these posts helps me take the edge off..
    prost!
     
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    Put on your Listening Ears .
    "Control to Datts "
    You are preaching and proselytising , and we ( Jason) do not want it .
    It is rude .You are forcing views that WE ( Jason) find silly .


    ( Jason) , in the UK , approaching 98% of the adult population don't go to Church because we( WE ) have found a better place , thanks all the same .
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    on second thought..maybe religion is a drug for some..it's a crutch to help them deal with life and with things they can't comprehend..
     
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    God will never force you to do anything. You are totally independent to select your path. If you like to drink, then drink. God is not preventing. But you over drink and disturb any other person in the society then there is law and order is there to take care of. If you are sitting at home and drinking and not disturbing any body else OK. Only thing excessive drinking will harm your own health. God has not objection for that. But disturbing the peace of society is not a good act, if anybody does it.

    Justice is the divine system created by God, to maintain the balance of the society so that the spiritual aspirants can do their efforts with peace. The justice is related to your colleague soul. The essence of Dharma is not to hurt anyone in anyway because the law and order is in the hands of God. Atleast you should not harm any devotee. But punishing the students for their welfare is exempted because the welfare of the student is the main aim.
     
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    charliedk New Member Past Donor

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    sounds to me like your tripping on an overdose of god..:eyepopping:
     
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    You are preaching and proselytising again . PUT ON YOUR LISTENING EARS .

    Or is it , God is a deaf as a Post , so I will be also?
     
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    What i written is the fact. If you do not disturb the society with your bad qualities God has no objection to your bad quality...
     
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    The occasional glass of wine and dark beer.

    The only way to roll.
     
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    Granny just mad `bout Harry...

    Is it normal to drink and end up naked?
    23 August 2012 - It is common to see inhibitions break down after drinking
     
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    Well I wish I'd said what ramondo said but I'll just have to say ditto ramondo.
     
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    BFSmith@764 Banned

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    Who says God invented alcohol? The Bible does not say that.......God invented alcohol the same way He invented cars, trucks and boats and gasoline that they run on.
     
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    To ensure the Irish would never rule the earth!
     
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    I guess the same way none religious people us drugs, alcohol, food, material things and whatever else they see they need in order to deal with life.....would you agree?
     
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    I completely agree..
    but you also need to agree that religious folk eat, drink alcohol, take pills and steal from the poor and the weak..
    also for those of you not in the know..fermentation was not discovered by man..it's been happening for millions of years..it's the simple process of sugar being broke down and converting into alcohol..
    ever notice birds getting drunk when eating old berries from trees..
    all man did was fine tune the process of making alcohol but it is a natural occurrence and therefore an evil byproduct of your god..just as pot, mushrooms and peyote..
    didn't Jesus change pizza into wine or something like that..?
     
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    Water into wine ?
     
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    And your point is.......
     
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    In the time when Dionysus, people would tie up their friends, get them drunk and then confront and expose their mental traps, hangups, grudges, egoisms etc. that drive people to do wrong things.
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