Religion of Peace Spreading in the Mid East

I couldn't have said it better myself.

 

there's that ignorance stuff again.

Look at the last 2-3 hundred years. Them folk have always been ruled by others, jew, christian, muslim alike in the so called 'holy land'.

It is only when the zionist pukes moved in claiming 'god gave this land to us' that makes the bigots, the self chosen sobs to mankind.

Now morons are supporting this idea that the muslims are trying to make a global islame'o dirt kissing fools.

All three of the religious texts mention when a war is coming.

IT'S HERE!

nope

but they gonna open up a can of whoop-azz if the bigots attack, again!


i have2 items i watch, real hard.

The temple mount; if that thing is damaged/encroached upon by force.

and if Iran and israel go at it.

I think iran is already nuke armed, personally. (russian, after cold war (nukes for sale))

So if the stupids, wannabe the 'chosen ones' then i think i understand why; they are the sobs of babylon (religious pursuit) than puts the world into ww3.

They are in israel for ONE thing; the templ mount to rebuild the so called temple of solomon.

it is as old as the egyptian 'holy of holies' (basis of zion)

 

That may well be, but it's a self-fulfilling prophecy, if indeed it is so. The faithheads in question keep making war, keep wanting to fight over bits of desert land instead of making peace and getting on with life.

I'm a bit frightened that we have political leaders in the USA who believe in this crap, too. I do NOT want a president who believes that some Bronze Age story about the world ending is literal truth, because I'm afraid that the dope will try to bring it about..

 

Jonsa: you lied about my fears, because you rejoice in deceit.

It's in your blood, surely.

 

Come on Abu, if you are honest with yourself, you will acknowledge that there is enough pasages in the Medina Q'ran that can be interpreted as intolerance and emnity against all non muslims. You subscribe the outrageous hateful and intolerant behaviour of many muslims to wahabism, but shia also have adopted a hateful perspective. The taliban are not wahabi. Are you suggesting that the Yemenites are whahabi? the egyptians? the Iranians? the bangledeshi? the Malaysians?

I do agree that there is a significant percentage of all of these people who are illiterate and therefore ignorant. This has been the status quo for 1500 years and as such these people have been conditioned to beleive whatever the illiterate imams tell them too.

Can you honestly examine the internal problems of Islamic countries and the conflicts they have between illiterate ignorance and modernity and not recognize that Islam is in desperate need of a reformation? Considering the christian reformation happened about 700 years ago, and Islam is about 700years younger than christianity one might conclude that it is time for moderate muslims around the planet to begin Islam's reformation.

 

Could you please explain the above in english

STOP THE PRESSES!

Are you actually conceding that the Temple Mount IS the Temple Mount? You might just want to re-examine the time line vis a vis the jewish temple and the plethora of egyptian holy of holies?

 

Man whatever you are smoking, please put a sample (1/4 oz would be fine) in an envelope and mail it to me.

 

You assume the same audio-visual stimuli is present in both places.

 

a 'like' to that post aint enough

That was intelligently put together and i am impressed if that is off the, tip of the tongue.

wow!

Abu, be fair!

 

Now you are advocating the use of narcotics.

Let's see.

A liar.

A drug fiend.

Interesting.


Tell me more.

 

You know that Pakistan has been Muslim since about 1947 don't you? Nothing
new. They named their capital Islamabad. There's a clue.

 

jerusalem had been held under foreign control for a long time. The true muslim, christians and real jews, dont need to control much of anything, except their own responsibility to 'god'

Stupids claim islam is to pursue world domination (submission)

That claim is as stupid as israelis thinking they can take the mount, without complete self destruction

I have always known and said, that the primary reason the bigots are even in palestine to make and israel, is that by their tailmud, they MUST build that temple, for me to be here.

but im already here

the whole foundation to the pursuit of the HH, is from egyptian foundations.

judaism is an egyptian foundation and few comprehend it

 

I can't follow your exchange with Bishadi..

 

Nice attempt to deflect blame, but more and more people are starting to see that these atrocities are because of the example set by Mohammad (react with violence instead of with reasoned debate like a modern Secular Humanist would.)

 

wow.

moses had 3k killed for the golden hathor (base of mount)


inquisitions were supposedly 'christians' that accidently used the iron maiden?

to seek freedom would be to recognize, that moses, jesus, muhammad were/are not the bad guys

you just showed the forum, 'false witness' .

 

And you just showed the forum "deflection".

 

pot isn't a narcotic.

 

I thought that in Islam judgement day cannot arrive until the world is dar-el-salaam? Since we know the prophet used military action to spread Islam throughout his life, and we know that Islamists pervert Islam to justify their violence, is it such a leap to consider the goal is world submission to allah by any means possible?

Well no doubt the ultra orthodox have their own twisted interpretation of bible mythology. But, I don't think that there is a mainstream consensus on that. In fact I'd wager the majority of Israelis realize the impracticality of rebuilding the temple on the temple mount.

You call it the temple mount, not Al-Aqsa. Most muslims reject the notion that Al Aqsa is built on the ruins of the second temple.

I agree. If you examine the evolution of religion, you see familiar themes and fables dressed up in different guise repeatedly. Of course, if you examine the Q/ran, you also see some of these themes and fables and modifications of pagan rituals.

 

It appears to me to be a kind of conglomerate of Egyptian, Babylonian and perhaps other, such as Zoroastrian and Mithraic, mythologies.

 

Its is a p fact that when dealing with any human group, if they are ignorant, they can be easily manipulated. Particularly when they are looking to an individual to tell them the meaning of the words in a holy book, a party platform or a news report.

 

The goal of peace in the world is one that we should hope and pray for. However it is nieve to believe it is an attainable goal. While I don't think all Muslims are evil, the Mid East is, an has been in turmoil for centuries.

 

Yes it is.

Look jonsa, we covered the fact that you're essentially a born liar. But this is getting redundant.

Tell me some new and interesting information about yourself.

 

Ever think that most of the world is sick and tired of crazy Yankees rioting all over the world maiming, torturing & killing people, all because the Yankees don't like some guy or want to spread their "democracy" religion or do it for their Israeli idol?

 

I would like a sample too please....

 

Consider the Treaty of Omar and what he found when he entered Jerusalem.

The Temple Mount was the city dump.. He ordered it cleared and a mosque built to honor the God of Abraham.

I can't imagine that many Jews would reject rabbinic Judaism to return to animal sacrifice.