McCain: Obama Might Be Conducting ‘Massive Cover-Up’ With Libya Attack

As for your first part: I honestly don't give 2 sh*ts why they attacked.

AS for the Second, I am curious as well, but I'd rather wait and here an answer before judging the situation.

I wasn't commenting on the truth or non truth of your statement, merely the fact that you 'just saw it on the news and that's good enough for me'. Sorry, but I hate the notion that TV will tell you the truth so who needs to go find out for yourself.

Anyway, it wouldn't have mattered if they had requested: The state dept official at the consulate had the amount of security he felt he needed (5) and any additional troops would have been stationed in Tripoli, which was 400Miles away and wouldn't have made a difference.

 

Considering what was inherited? Yeah I think they did a good job stopping the free fall and reversing the trend. I don't know how that makes me a progressive, but OK. UE was at 7.4% on election day in 1984 and that was good enough to get Saint Ronnie reelected by a landslide.

http://articles.businessinsider.com...485008_1_unemployment-rate-obama-election-day


Is that a good enough source? Is Business Insider a "Progressive" media source run by George Soros? Just asking. I could go find it on Drudge or Fox, but they are so balanced I couldn't seem to find it there.

 

Double post

 

Like Nixon...like Obama

 

You are generally right about that. There was supporting evidence, I'm just too tired to look it up for the sake of scoring a point on an Internet forum.

 

obama admits to the facts after he has been exposed. Its now clear he knew what was going on within 24 hours, probably in real time.

And why did he make up that cover story about a video? I'm sure he had some calculation about not wanting to give credit to the supposedly destroyed and impotent AQ before the election, and he wanted to look good to his Arab buddies.

And I'm sure obama didnt want to drop a JDAM or shoot a Hellfire or pop a 105 shell onto that mortar position and then see on CNN all the dead "innocent civilians who were just celebrating a wedding". obama would rather lose a few people than get bad press in the muslim world.

It all fits obama's instinct to apologize and bow and give a speech blaming America.

 

Oh cry me a river, the man wanted to be president, you know leader of the free world and all that. The problem is this. Obama got his stimulus and simply thought that would fix everything, it didn't. Yet he wasted how long to pass his Obamacare BS that the people didn't want? Obama took his eye off the economy to put forth his legacy legislation. The nation suffered far longer than it needed to, and in the end we are only where we began? How is that a success? Its not. No article is going to change that...

I was in Catholic school when Ronnie was president, and if I'd have called him St. Ronnie a nun would beat the living crap out of me...

 

He never promised the stimulus would fix everything. That is a lie. The stimulus was a stop gap and it worked. As for Obamacare? Romney didn't think it was that bad when he signed it into law in Massachesetts. Oh yeah and it worked, so good job Mitt. 98% of the state is insured. You people want it all and want it now, and (*)(*)(*)(*) don't work that way.

 

I didn't say he promised it would solve everything, the fact is he got it passed and simply moved on, ignoring the economy and jobs issues to press healthcare...

Obama dropped the ball, he could have stayed 100% focused on the economy and jobs and improved thing far beyond the non-existant 'saved jobs' and shovel ready jobs that weren't...

 

obama made predictions about the effect of the stimulus. He failed to meet any of his stated goals.

Here's a cute video of obama's claim of jobs saved

[video=youtube;CJu0DgpiK8c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJu0DgpiK8c[/video]

Here's obama claims vs obama results, in obama's on words

[video=youtube;s2MjQ17kDng]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=s2MjQ17kDng&NR=1[/video]

obama is in way over his head.

 

I hate democrats. I hate them as much as they hate this nation.

Obama's Benghazi Massacre makes me very angry.

 

So explain why you believe it acceptable for him to send his minions out to lie?

 

Obama's Benghazi Massacre was all about protecting his October Surprise.

 

Father of Slain SEAL to Obama: It's Better to Die a Hero Than Live a Coward


[video=youtube;9I8cgUfdSgw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=9I8cgUfdSgw[/video]

 

Facts dont matter what makes people feel better is what matters... Is that what you are saying?

 

Probably Pres. Obama is trying to cover up the Libya attack by saving Ambassador Steven's name because the USA was very clear from the very beginning of the Libya's civil war that the USA will not get directly involve the policy was to initiate the first involvement and then step back let France and England take the lead. Steven from the very beginning has been acting outside of his command he has been active in supporting the rebels he has intentionally put himself in danger in order to draw the USA into direct military involvement.

IMO the drones were arm but the operators could not open fire because of fear of hitting "civilians" just like in Somalia the military could not send in fighter jets to carpet bomb the rebel crowds instead they send in ground troops to try to engage the enemy without success the same happen in Libya the military send in ground troops to try to secure Steven and his staff instead of dropping bombs on the terrorist.

Steven was a rough ambassador acting on his own that included ambassadoring for the rebels and terrorist.

 

The truth doesnt matter to you does it as long as your messiah gets re-elected.....

 

Hmmm good question..

They don't have all their facts straight.. They have no clue what went on and had nothing but misinformation, completely blinded by the fog of war..

So Obama sends spokespeople out on a little media parade in order to tell the entire country, stated as fact, the story they were NOT very sure of.

 

How self-serving. Well it is the key issue here and since you don't care you have no further credibility in the matter.

 

You don't inherit what you helped to create. Obama didn't ride into Washington in January of 2009, he had bee a Senator for 4 years the last two in a Democrat controlled Congress. He refused to work with the Bush administrations efforts to avert the mortgage collapse and F&F's collapse. He vote against the 2007 Republican budget with a deficit of only $161B then supported and voted for the 2008 Democrat budget which increased the deficit by almost 3 times to over $400 billion the supported and voted for and then signed as President the 2009 Democrat budget which ran the deficit to $1,400B almost TEN TIMES where Bush and the Republicans had it.

The jobloss rate bottomed out in January of 2009 the month he was sworn in as President. It started rebounding in February the month his stimulus plan was passed. By June the recession ended and the job loss rate had shrunk DRAMATICALLY before any of his stimulus went into effect. He stopped nothing, he turned around nothing the economy had already done that before anything he did had any effect.

Reagan didn't still have 23 million people unemployed, the lowest labor participation rate since the Depression or a REAL unemployment rate of 11% if you count all the people who have given up looking and gone on government assistance.

Your chart merely proves what I stated above. We should be a 4% GDP growth by now, we are averaging below 2% this year which is lower than last year and lower than the year before. We should be back to full employment, we are still a a horribly high rate when you just look at the U3 but when you consider all the people who have dropped out we are still in double digits.

Why would you give this economic dunce another term?

 

There was no fog of war, they had real time video and real time of the ground reports. They knew while the attack was going on it was not a spontaneous demonstrations and that there had been no demonstrations.

Which would be bad enough if that were the case, the fact is they KNEW it wasn't true.

 

Remember when former President Bill Clinton said essentially in the Monica Lewinsky scandal hearings that sex isn't sex unless he calls it sex? Is this what it's getting down to? Legal hare-splitting?

If you have conflicting reports, you say we are determining what happened and don't say anything. If you are watching events in real time you need to disclose the truth.

If there is any ambiguity, say so. Don't spin things the convenient way only to wind up with 'egg on your face' when common sense says you should have done otherwise!

 

this word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

Anyway, I wonder where all this outrage was when House Republicans cut 400Million from the Embassy Security budgets....

 

Why is it the only people who refer to Obama as a "messiah" are his so called detractors? Really you can take that messiah (*)(*)(*)(*) and shove it up your ass already.

 

Blah blah blah. Just more rightwing noise especially the "real" unemployment rate BS. Funny how it was good enough for everyone else but now that there is a black guy in there we need to use a different measurement. Go ahead and elect the two faced loser Romney. I am going to laugh when he turns out even more liberal than Obama and he explodes the deficit that Obama happened to cut in his four years.