People on Welfare Are NOT Lazy

LOL

What ever happened to Irish sense of humor?!

 

Whatever dude. I work for a living to support my family, I have a car that is more than 10 years old... that I paid for. I do not have 100 channels of garbage television for my kid to rot his brain with either, I choose not to pay for that crap even though I could with money I earned. I cherish my family and instilling a sense of pride and decent work ethic are two things I will pass on to my son. How to be a leech and irresponsible will be your legacy to your children.

 

Do you honestly think that anyone who shared a thought process anything like this is gonna go around the forums admitting it? People don't admit this stuff to other people and most times even to themselves. People make up excuses and exceptions for themselves. They justify. I see it daily.

You seem to think that just because someone doesn't come right out and say they are fleecing the system means that they are rare. It is exactly this line of thinking that makes it so easy to fleece the system. No one who is fleecing the system admits it, and this makes people like you think they don't exist.

 

I do typically have a decent sense of humor but I don't find such posters funny. It takes a least a bit of wit to constitute as a joke. And the irish in my family do not joke about being lazy, such things would get you a slap to the back of your head

Had few drinks tonight and I am going to use that as an excuse to why I am allowing my feathers to get ruffled by fools, but will take a clue from a respected poster that I may need to tone it down a bit.

 

To each his own. Why are you trying to push your insanely materialistic lifestyle of working 40 hrs week on to me? I'm not trying to convince you to ditch your job, and spend more time with your family. You do you, and I'll do me.

 

I believe them to be the minority, of course they exist.

Some people try to use the welfare abuser posing them as the normal and amplify their drain on the system. I would rather fund a few abusers then neglect to help out people who are in actual need.

 

No you're not a troll. You make up things to boost your political position. You present yourself as someone you are not. Normal people call that lying.

Who are you really? I bet you fought in Iraq. No, wait, you were a SEAL and did all sorts of cool things and won the Medal of Honor but can't tell anyone because its so secret. oo oo I got it, you were the guy that shot bin laden! Yea, thats the ticket!

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You can react however you like. I'm not taking offense. As far as laziness being some taboo not to be joke about I think you're being a bit sensitive. Besides, it's not really a joke. There are people out there (and it is not uncommon) that are satisfied with just the basics out of life. I see it daily firsthand. It's a serious question: What do you tell someone who is satisfied with what is provided for them? There are people in 3rd-world countries what would KILL to have it as good as someone on welfare. It's all relative. Relative to a period of time. Relative to those in your immediate vicinity. Relative to what role one perceives the government has. Relative to how disparate income levels are.

I think most people who criticize the rich for being unscrupulous, give far to much credit to the poor. Income doesn't change human nature.

 

Malignancy.

 

The principled and moral among us consider "the basics" to be elemental subsistence provided by themselves. You aren't doing that: you're a taker, and you're unapologetic about it.

Which is disgusting. Your children should be ashamed, but you are additionally doing damage to society by providing for them an example which proclaims that it is OK to be a leech on society.

 

What evidence do you have that malignancy pays 20% in taxes?!??

 

I knew it!

**grin**


My best to you and yours.

 

Believe it or not, I'm not the 1st person on the internet to act like someone they are not. In fact, I'm probably being more honest than most, I at least let up the ruse after 24 hours.

Would it have made you feel better if I prefaced each post with: What if someone said ... ?

I don't like to get too personal on the internet, but let's just point out the stuff pertaining to my post: I make <$40k/year. I live in a poor urban neighborhood. Almost all concrete examples I've given have come from behaviors I have witnessed 1st hand, I've only had to make up the justifications for the actions. I see welfare fraud 1st hand daily. I believe that those I know fleecing the system are not some statistical anomaly in my area, and that there is much abuse of the system. Exactly 0 people I know defrauding the system admit to it. Whenever I press them on the issue, they make up excuses (many of the ones I've given), justify, and get angry with me. I'm curious what someone else's take on this mindset would be.

By acting sincere, I get sincere responses. When I post about things in hypothetical instances, people say they don't exist.

 

Would you feel better if I apologized? I'm allowed to leech as long as I don't brag about it? If I told you I made my children feel ashamed, would it be any more right? It seems people don't mind the behavior nearly as much the attitude.

 

A lot less than to the guy who only cares about his bottom line preaching about the lives of people he knows nothing about. A guy who looks down at others from his ivory tower hating others because apparently they choose to be poor. A guy who wants to dictate the lives of others with one face while talking about how much he loves his country with the other.

There are so many other topics that deserve our attention the fact that this is what you spend your time makes your motives very clear.

You don't have to know you're a troll to be a troll.

 

I hope we are not long lost brothers, I never thought anyone saw things like me.

I am on welfare too, and believe in the Liberty of not having to work. People should be free to sit at home and not be forced to work if they don't want to, and the United States of America forgets about our liberty, its always focused on the liberty of the Rich but not the poor.

We are entitled by the constitution to have others pay for us, and its high time that they do that and give us our basic rights of health care, housing, and food. And a little extra money for entertainment.

My man, or woman. Like given.

 

They are the same person! It's Human Nature! That's my point! You seem to believe the rich have no scruples, but the poor are somehow inherently honest. Income does NOT change human nature.

As far as the troll bashing goes: You're upset because I took you for a little ride. Breathe. Calm Down. Engage.

So far the general response has been the status quo: The Right is apalled by my behavior and say Ha! I knew it! The Left is appalled by my behavior and say You don't exist.

If our country is going to start to engage in (more) liberal policies, we at least need to do it with our eyes open. Don't bury your head in the sand on this one out of anger. It's not about being right, its about being realistic.

 

The true indicator of remorse is a change in behaviour. That should answer your question.

 

I am slightly hesitant to ask why

Like wise to you Angedras, I meant what I said about being a respected poster. There is something to say about a man who can always remain cordial, especially on this forum. A lesson I am still in the process of mastering.

 

This is an anonymous forum, people can say whatever they want with impunity. Its the modern test of charachter - what do you do when no one is watching, or you cant get caught?

Some pass the test, some fail. It seems a trivial thing but its not. I have a plaque that says:

&#8220;You cannot be disciplined in great things and undisciplined in small things. Brave undisciplined men have no chance against the discipline and valour of other men. Have you ever seen a few policemen handle a crowd?&#8221;
- General George S. Patton Jr, May 1941, in an address to officers and men of the Second Armored Division.​

If you are weak when there is no pressure, you will be weak when there is pressure and it really counts. If you cant do whats right when its easy, you will never do whats right when its hard and there are consequences.

Besides, why do you trade your integrity for responses from anonymous people that dont have any role in your life?

 

Not a Patton fan, but I liked what you said in this post. The times in life where I have truly decided who I am as a person is when no one was looking and no one would ever find out.

 

You make me laugh. Maybe I'm behind the times. You seem to think that internet forums are the ultimate and final test of character, and that my ruse (which I myself let up), somehow speaks volumes of my personal character. I'll give you this: your post did make me dissect my actions a little deeper. Seeing as how your personal opinion of me deviates so extremely from the perception of my real life counterparts (Friends, Co-Workers, Wife, Peers), I can come to the following conclusions:

Internet forums play an extremely small role in my life. I think it had been something like 8 months since my last post. I usually splurge on some posts every 6 months or so. Quit after a week when I get bored, go back to doing what I normally do with my free time.

I'm getting that this is not true for everyone. For some, this forum plays a much larger role in their lives. Naturally, when something takes up a larger portion of someone's life, they try to inflate its meaning whether it be their work, their sport's team, etc. People don't like to feel like the things they are part of are meaningless (and therefore their lives).

Believe me I know I'm not an exception to this rule, but since I definitely seem to be in "your" house rather than you being in "mine", your criticism of me rubs me as kind of pathetic.

Oh well, such is Human Nature. I'm sure that in some of the other areas of my life that I hold in higher regard than others, my criticism of them may seem equally pathetic.

 

You may be right...... they're 2 of a kind.

 

It doesn't work that way. There's no increase in the welfare check until the baby is born and produce the birth certificate..... then produce the name of the father, which is turned over to support Enforcement and they get child support payments - if the mother knows the father's name, of course.......

 

The best thing you can do for yourself AND your innocent kids is to start living a very celibate life or start stocking up on birth control..... do the birth control. Or else get yourself fixed.....