"Operation Pillar of Defense" Israel to defend Israel and Palestinians

The UN and world leaders have called to give peace a chance, Israel has always give peace a chance it is Hamas who does not want peace and it is time the UN, the West and NATO launch a regime change in Gaza it is time to bring the Hamas leadership to the world criminal court to be tried for crime against humanity for decades Hamas have disregarded the safety of civilians and have openly launch rockets towards Israel while placing those rocket launchers and weapons in civilian areas as cover.

The blood of Gazan civilians are all in the hands of Hamas and the world knows that is why they have all condemn Hamas act of terrorism against Israel.

Operation Pillar of Defense is design not only to protect Israel but Gazan citizens as well.

 

"Avoid being in the facility of Hamas Operatives" That's a neat trick, are they supposed to pick up their houses and run away with them?

Are the israeli efforts to "Avoid civilian casualties" anything like America's? Because we know all about how well that works. But Israel can do what they want because nobody argues with lunatics with nukes. Soon as Iran gets their hands on nukes all that "bad iran" talk, just gonna dissolve away. If you have enough power, rules don't really apply to you.

 

I've been arguing with people here for days that is Hamas fault, and you explained better then me

 

This is just a falsehood.

2012 – On November 14, two days after Palestinian factions in Gaza agree to a truce following several days of violence, Israel assassinates the leader of Hamas’ military wing, Ahmed Jabari, threatening to escalate the violence once again after a week in which at least six Palestinian civilians are killed and dozens more wounded in Israeli attacks.

2012 - On March 9, Israel violates an Egyptian-brokered ceasefire and assassinates the head of the Gaza-based Popular Resistance Committees, sparking another round of violence in which at least two-dozen Palestinians are killed, including at least four civilians, and scores more wounded. As usual, Israel claims it is acting in self-defense, against an imminent attack being planned by the PRC, while providing no evidence to substantiate the allegation.

2011 – On October 29, Israel breaks a truce that has maintained calm for two months, killing five Islamic Jihad members in Gaza, including a senior commander. The following day, Egypt brokers another truce that Israel proceeds to immediately violate, killing another four IJ members. In the violence, a total of nine Palestinians and one Israeli are killed.

2008 - In November, Israel violates a ceasefire with Hamas and other Gaza-based militant groups that has been in place since June, launching an operation that kills six Hamas members. Militant groups respond by launching rockets into southern Israel, which Israel shortly thereafter uses to justify Operation Cast Lead, its devastating military assault on Gaza beginning on December 27. Over the next three weeks, the Israeli military kills approximately 1400 Palestinians, most of them civilians, including more than 300 children. A UN Human Rights Council Fact Finding Mission led by South African jurist Richard Goldstone subsequently concludes that both Israel and Hamas committed war crimes and crimes against humanity during the fighting, a judgment shared by human rights organizations such as Amnesty International and Human Rights Watch.

2002 - On July 23, hours before a widely reported ceasefire declared by Hamas and other Palestinian groups is scheduled to come into effect, Israel bombs an apartment building in the middle of the night in the densely populated Gaza Strip in order to assassinate Hamas leader Salah Shehada. Fourteen civilians, including nine children, are also killed in the attack, and 50 others wounded, leading to a scuttling of the ceasefire and a continuation of violence.

2002 – On January 14, Israel assassinates Raed Karmi, a militant leader in the Fatah party, following a ceasefire agreed to by all Palestinian militant groups the previous month, leading to its cancellation. Later in January, the first suicide bombing by the Fatah linked Al-Aqsa Martyr’s Brigade takes place.

2001 – On November 23, Israel assassinates senior Hamas militant Mahmoud Abu Hanoud. At the time, Hamas was adhering to an agreement made with PLO head Yasser Arafat not to attack targets inside of Israel. Following the killing, respected Israeli military correspondent of the right-leaning Yediot Ahronot newspaper, Alex Fishman, writes in a front-page story: "We again find ourselves preparing with dread for a new mass terrorist attack within the Green Line [Israel's pre-1967 border]… Whoever gave a green light to this act of liquidation knew full well that he is thereby shattering in one blow the gentleman's agreement between Hamas and the Palestinian Authority; under that agreement, Hamas was to avoid in the near future suicide bombings inside the Green Line...” A week later, Hamas responds with bombings in Jerusalem and Haifa.

2001 – On July 25, as Israeli and Palestinian Authority security officials meet to shore up a six-week-old ceasefire, Israel assassinates a senior Hamas member in Nablus. Nine days later, Hamas responds with a suicide bombing in a Jerusalem pizzeria.

1988 – In April, Israel assassinates senior PLO leader Khalil al-Wazir in Tunisia, even as the Reagan administration is trying to organize an international conference to broker peace between Israelis and Palestinians. The US State Department condemns the murder as an “act of political assassination.” In ensuing protests in the occupied territories, a further seven Palestinians are gunned down by Israeli forces.

1982 – Following Israel’s invasion of Lebanon in June, and after PLO fighters depart Beirut under the terms of a US-brokered ceasefire, Israel violates the terms of the agreement and moves its armed forces into the western part of the city, where the Palestinian refugee camps of Sabra and Shatila are located. Shortly thereafter, Israeli soldiers surround the camps and send in their local Christian Phalangist allies - even though the long and bloody history between Palestinians and Phalangists in Lebanon is well known to the Israelis, and despite the fact that the Phalangists' leader, Bashir Gemayel, has just been assassinated and Palestinians are rumored (incorrectly) to be responsible. Over the next three days, between 800 and 3500 Palestinian refugees, mostly women and children left behind by the PLO fighters, are butchered by the Phalangists as Israeli soldiers look on. In the wake of the massacre, an Israeli commission of inquiry, the Kahan Commission, deems that Israeli Defense Minister (and future Prime Minister) Ariel Sharon bears "personal responsibility" for the slaughter.

1981-2 – Under Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, Israel repeatedly violates a nine-month-old UN-brokered ceasefire with the PLO in Lebanon in an effort to provoke a response that will justify a large-scale invasion of the country that Sharon has been long planning. When PLO restraint fails to provide Sharon with an adequate pretext, he uses the attempted assassination of Israel’s ambassador to England to justify a massive invasion aimed at destroying the PLO – despite the fact that Israeli intelligence officials believe the PLO has nothing to do with the assassination attempt. In the ensuing invasion, more than 17,000 Lebanese are killed.

1973 – Following a ceasefire agreement arranged by the US and the Soviet Union to end the Yom Kippur War, Israel violates the agreement with a “green light” from US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger. According to declassified US documents, Kissinger tells the Israelis they can take a “slightly longer" time to adhere to the truce. As a result, Israel launches an attack and surrounds the Egyptian Third Army, causing a major diplomatic crisis between the US and Soviets that pushes the two superpowers to the brink of nuclear war, with the Soviets threatening to intervene to save their Egyptian allies and the US issuing a Defcon III nuclear alert.

1967 - Israel violates the 1949 Armistice Agreement, launching a surprise attack against Egypt and Syria. Despite claims Israel is acting in self-defense against an impending attack from Egypt, Israeli leaders are well aware that Egypt poses no serious threat. Yitzhak Rabin, Chief of the General Staff of the Israeli army during the war, says in a 1968 interview that "I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent into Sinai on May 14 would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it." And former Prime Minister Menachem Begin later admits that "Egyptian army concentrations in the Sinai approaches did not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him."

1956 - Colluding with Britain and France, Israel violates the 1949 Armistice Agreement by invading Egypt and occupying the Sinai Peninsula. Israel only agrees to withdraw following pressure from US President Dwight Eisenhower.

1949 – Immediately after the UN-brokered Armistice Agreement between Israel and its neighbors goes into effect, the armed forces of the newly-created Israeli state begin violating the truce with encroachments into designated demilitarized zones and military attacks that claim numerous civilian casualties.

http://mondoweiss.net/2012/11/two-n...d-israels-history-of-breaking-ceasefires.html

 

If there's a side in this conflict more likely to support and maintain peace, it's Israel. However, they also have the upper hand, with the Palestinians struggling for international recognition.

However, nothing excuses their rocket attacks and other such actions against Israel. This militarism and terrorism of theirs is no way towards a solution that is peaceful and in any way equitable for the Palestinians. I think it may in fact be a big mistake letting them have the Gaza strip, where they foster murderous hatred in their children, creating whole new generations of fanatical enemies of Israel, where even children's television programming praises and encourages jihad.. It's appalling, and it's no wonder that they keep attacking Israel. They just tell themselves and each other that they're avenging similar killings and proceed to attack Israelis, even going after kids. That situation is just disgusting. Something should be done with the Palestinians other than keeping them in that giant ghetto.

 

I have just proven that to be a fallacy and you have the audacity to post that crap when there is a whole page above it stating exactly the opposite.

 

I have not seen so many lies in one post for a long time.
Mind if I nominate your port to the Guinness book of records ?

 

All documented history, the real stuff but being as I know you do not deal in that and prefer fiction it is beyond your ability to understand it. You should really get back to that pro Israeli bullcrap you like, you know real lies. Feel free to try and prove any of it to be incorrect.

 

Regime change is the solution, Gazans deserve better, the UN or NATO should support Fatah to go in and take out Hamas not dismantle but destroy it and all other Islamist-terrorist groups that have found safe haven in Gaza. Fatah.

 

1949 = Israel was legitimately recognize by the UN to have a small tiny nation or independent State of Israel comprise only 5% of the entire Palestine immediately Muslims unilaterally violated UN resolution and attack tiny Israel with one purpose to destroy it.
1956= Jordan tried to calm the Muslims and explain that Israel have the right to exist the King of Jordan was assassinated for that and again combine armies of Muslims attack tiny Israel again, they failed again resulting in Israel having to expand their borders for security and as part of their right of war claim.
1967-2012 = Egypt and Jordan finally going against the Islamist outdated and barbaric policy of war and destruction went their own way to recognize and become allies with Israel. Other Muslims including Hamas, Hezbollah continue to wage war and refuse to give peace a chance any truce Hamas agreed were violated by Hamas they use the truce to re-arm and expand their militancy now we have witness their treachery they are now equip with Iran made missiles that can reach Tel Aviv this is the reason why we can not and will not allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

Israel never is agressive, they just get their self defense in first. When they kill kids its just to prevent those kids growing up and 15 years down the line maybe joining a terrorist organization. They may get a bunch of other people killed too, but taht's the price when it's "self defense."

 

You have failed to prove anything wrong that I posted.

http://www.politicalforum.com/lates...efend-israel-palestinians.html#post1061963539

Try again.

 

Here I try again; 1949 = Israel was legitimately recognize by the UN to have a small tiny nation or independent State of Israel comprise only 5% of the entire Palestine immediately Muslims unilaterally violated UN resolution and attack tiny Israel with one purpose to destroy it.

1956= Jordan tried to calm the Muslims and explain that Israel have the right to exist the King of Jordan was assassinated for that and again combine armies of Muslims attack tiny Israel again, they failed again resulting in Israel having to expand their borders for security and as part of their right of war claim.

1967-2012 = Egypt and Jordan finally going against the Islamist outdated and barbaric policy of war and destruction went their own way to recognize and become allies with Israel. Other Muslims including Hamas, Hezbollah continue to wage war and refuse to give peace a chance any truce Hamas agreed were violated by Hamas they use the truce to re-arm and expand their militancy now we have witness their treachery they are now equip with Iran made missiles that can reach Tel Aviv this is the reason why we can not and will not allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

Repeating the same failed argument is not working for you. Try again

 

"Tiny" Israel has the largest and most modern military in the region. It also has nuclear weapons, so quit with the 'tiny' emotive crap.
Oh, and Israel has no right to claim or retain any territory it won through war. UN Resolution 242 makes that abundantly clear. Israel is signatory to the UN Charter and is thus bound by all of the resolutions, rules and laws of the UN. You know this. http://daccess-dds-ny.un.org/doc/RESOLUTION/GEN/NR0/240/94/IMG/NR024094.pdf?OpenElement

 

Yoh Dawg - Yah really have the Hounds Hollering

I think you have them all Choking on the FACTS

Their only Rebuttal is Bald outrage, misdirection & DENIAL
............................................ - Congrates on the Win.



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You must be translating from Polish... Go read 242 again or perhaps speak to Lord Caradon.

 

It is not repeating it is hammering the truth to the Islamist who are so stupid to support the terrorist Hamas, that is why the UN will never accept Palestine as a member of the UN until Palestinians start to understand who the terrorist are.

 

Yes, tiny Israel has all the military might because they needed it to defend themselves at the same time Muslims have the largest military 100 to 1 against Israel that is design for aggression.
The Arab countries are also bound by UN resolution that they have openly violated. The only way for Israel to be secure and to have total peace in the Middle East is to achieve total victory just like in WWII, Hamas and all their allies should be defeated and its leaders brought to war crime tribunal for crime against humanity for decades they have use civilians as targets and shield. Any form of containment or appeasement will not work Hamas and the Islamist will only use those appeasement, truce and containment as a means to re-arm with more powerful weapons, a total of 750 rockets have been fired towards Israel the last 12 months and Israel have suck it all up enough is enough I hope this time Israel go all the way liberate Gaza and turn it over to Fatah.

 

It is not the truth, your posts do not represent any part of any truth they tend to be complete bullcrap. Your claim that the UN would not accept Palestine as a member is rubbish,the only reason they are not a member is because the USA has a veto on the security council. Palestine has 130 states that recognise it as a state in the UN, on 29th November this year they are going to the General Assembly to vote on them getting non member status and they will win that vote by a mile because America does not have a veto there and cannot do anything to stop them.

 

Canada, Australia, UK, etc. have all voted against Palestine for one reason alone....Hamas. All Muslim countries voted for Palestine just like they did in 1949 when they all went to war against tiny Israel. Remember, Hamas is against being a member of the UN too! If for some wild chance it will only be the West Bank that will be recognize while Gaza will end up in Israel's control because of Hamas. Think about that.

 

I am sorry but there are many more states at the UN apart from Canada,Australia and the UK, Palestine has the support of 130 states. Your claim that all Muslims countries got together in 1949 against Israel is crap, a few went to war in 1948(you cannot even get the year correct) to protect Palestinians who were being evicted off their land by the Israeli military who were stealing their land.

 

I second this effort... The be fabled writer should have asked why after every paragraph then, would not have endeavored posting scatological nonsense.

 

Only a small number of Gazans are Hamas.

 

Lol You live in a bubble of make believe. Who needs facts ? Not America, for it is the country of make believe.