Student to fight high school over mandatory microchip tracking

Starting with my generation, the surveillance state became the "new normal." The government gets away with recording conversations without a warrant, spying on our web browsing, cameras on every major street corner, giving your fingerprints just to get a drivers license, etc. They were itching for it for quite some time, but 9-11 gave them the starting point to electronic monitoring. The takeoff of the internet was just gravy to them.

 

Yes, I remember attendence being taken in school. We didn't need to carry tracker chips with us everywhere to do it. We would raise our hand or say "Here", and everything worked just fine. Now, if you are going to cut class, are you going to carry your tracker chip with you? I wouldn't. I would probably give my card to someone who WAS going to class, and truancy would be easier than ever.

 

I know.

That was made clear in the OP.

Notwithstanding, it still seems amiss, to me.

 

This.

That said, the example is just a tiny symptom of a larger cause.

How do I put this. You see all these mega rich people, and that means NO ONE on here, I mean what are oft called the 1%?

They see us all as cattle. Livestock. Different kinds of livestock, but livestock notwithstanding.

If you work in a factory, producing something, then you are akin to a chicken.

If you are physically strong perhaps, then you are pack mule.

If you are esp pretty and entertaining, then you are like a colourful bird - good to look at.

If you are intelligent, then you are seen as a curiousity, still livestock, but an anamoly, like a Macaw.

That's how we are ALL seen - livestock.

We must all understand this, to have a chance to break ourselves free from it. We do not like to admit it to ourselves, that this is how we are seen, yet it is truth. Most people cannot understand it, not because the idea challenges them intellectually, but emotionally.

Jack

 

How is it invasive? Before you answer that question, you'll need to know exactly how the system in question is/can be used - RFID can be used in a variety of ways. That information is not in the article you quoted.

At the basic level, this kind of thing is fairly standardised and lots of places use them for ID/secure access. There's no reason an off-the-shelf system would cost all that much.

But sitting all the students in neat straight lines with a teacher staring down on them, ticking off their names in a big red book isn't? The only Orwellian aspect apparent here is the fictional imaginations of the uninformed. I bet they're imagining a room with a big map on the wall, covering in flashing dots.

 

There ya go confusing the mindless sheeple here with the facts, you do know thst they do not allow facts to get in the way of their rants, don't ya.

 

Wrong Again Buckaroo, you are very good at that skill.

 

how are they being tracked?

 

How are they not?

 

i should have known you wouldn't directly answer the question

 

Well, don't quote mine a few words, from an entire item, and then frame a question around it.

 

i'll do whatever i want

 

You can, but then I can also respond to such tactics accordingly.

 

And you can't take that in the begining of class?

 

I think it was a valid question, albeit poorly put. You could answer my version from post 30 if you'd prefer.

 

how's that

 

I think cutting words from a sentence risks misrepresenting the context and is generally considered bad form. When your questions in response are so brief, it hardly encourages people to engage with you. Intended or not, it appear snappy and shallow.

 

Technology in and of itself is not a problem. It's all a matter of how it's used. People should be careful though to not erase away good useful technology just because of the idea that it could do this, or it could do that. Just use it in how it's not too invasive, while being helpful in various ways.

Some civil libertarians (ex. ACLU) go overboard to the extent of demanding the absence of street cameras as in "invasion of privacy." That is (as many things the ACLU says) is absurd. When you are out in the street, you are in PUBLIC, not private. Everyone can see you, anyone can video you or take a picture. The cameras aren't doing any more than what's already happening, and they have been very helpful in catching criminals committing crimes, as well as acting as a deterrent. TV shows show dumb criminals in banks and convenience stores committing robberies, batteries, and even murder with their faces fully exposed to the camera/recorders. They were critical in convicting Joseph Smith (murderer of Carli Bruscia), for example.

It also is a deterrent to criminals when they see these videos on TV where other crooks were recorded, sometimes shot by store clerks, and sometimes had the hell beaten out of them by store clerks and shoppers.

As for the chips, sometimes they're good (monitoring small kids or elderly in nursing homes), in other cases, they might really be a little too much.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...0110220_1_cameras-crime-justice-policy-center

 

Precisely.

Thank you.

No longer engaging with said member.

 

From what I can gather here, they haven't been.

 

no, it shows exactly what i was referring to

how can it misrepresent? the original post is still there in its complete form

fluff isn't necessary

you're projecting your own state of mind

i was being concise

because you realize your bs would be refuted

 

No. No. No. No. Never!

 

It's a school though.. If the students had to wear the ID's outside school hours then I would see a problem with it. There's got to be a bigger fish to fry...even for a student. It's no big deal....And if a student ever needs to vanish or escape or hide, these ID's could just as easily help them to do that by being used to mislead the school faculty about their whereabouts.

 

There is a problem.. You are moving, gradually, inevitably, towards the big brother state.

The SCHOOL is not the example of this..

Do you have a British passport? It has the same chip in it, most likely. At least the newer ones that I've seen have it.. If you've not got it, you'll have it when you renew your passport.

THAT is already out there.. A school using it to keep track of their students during the day makes a bit of sense to be honest. Big brother watching where the passports he issues out go to... there's a bigger fish for you.

 

How exactly do you believe someone is monitoring where passports with RFID chips are?