Christianity is a lie, since Adam wouldn't need/have a bellly button.

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  1. FreedomSeeker

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    The most famous painting of Adam is wrong then (in a famous church, no less), correct?

    But Genesis doesn't mention dinosaurs as such either, so, uh....
     
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    Not proof, but just one more WTF about adult fairy tales.
     
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    Oh please please please tell me just why I would care. Don't dance around the issue, just give me a straight simple honest answer. Believe me I'm looking forward to why I would care.
     
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    Yes, it's a tough question isn't it.
    Just like the question: "Is it if god in the bible is so darn loving, then why would he willingly KILL all living things in a flood - innocent baby bunnies, innocent babies, etc. (except for Noah's gang) because allegedly HE made a mistake?" In other words, if YOU RedWolf made a mistake, would YOU kill every living thing on the planet - if you had that power....or are you more moral than the all-loving "god"? Now THAT'S a tough question.
     
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    I'm going to go ahead and stop you their because you're basing your entire argument against me on the simple assumption that I'm a christian. And you know what they say about people who assume. If you're the paradigm of secular humanism then you'll forgive me if I just don't take your entire movement seriously. It appears to be lacking in the ability to draw distinction between an artist's idea and actual evidence. And you mock religion.
     
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    It has created more problems that just about any other "approved" man-made construct ever, so it needs to be mocked.
    Seriously, Muslims on this forum DEFEND (yes, defend) Mohammad raping a 9 year old girl....defend it! Religion needs mocking.
    Christians defend killing gays in their texts....just try to give them a new improved version that excludes that part and they won't accept it. Sad. Religion needs mocking. It's all just a fairy tale.

    Can you say that the Bible is ridiculous in that their "god" is all-loving (they claim) yet would kill everything, even innocents, by creating a flood to kill them all?
     
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    There was no Noah and no world wide flood...
     
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    So can you say that the Bible was simply wrong?
     
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    No I am saying YOU are wrong.. You have no clue what the Bible is about.
     
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    And all of which have NOTHING to do with the claim that you made in the op. Either you lack basic deduction skills and logic that you can't be taken seriously or you're dishonest and have no credibility.
     
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    Idiocy seems to be one of your favorite dishes.

    It was answered... yet you seem to avoid those questions that I posed to you.
     
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    It's about creating the biggest cash-cow in world history....just look at the immense wealth of the Catholic Church. Fear sells. The collection plate is the bottom line, and fear fills the collection plate better than anything.

    You'd THINK that an all-powerful, all-knowing "god" could come up with a system that doesn't involve horrific torture etc....but I guess he's just not too creative.
     
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    Your statements make it appear that you are jealous of Gods ability to create something that you have not been able to duplicate.
     
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    I'm not jealous of what Hitler created (at one point), and I'm not jealous of what that invisible friend in the sky created, because both are immoral. But I do think that Hitler was real, and that the magic, shy, invisible, immoral friend in the sky is not real. I don't like to see a make-believe entity get that much credit. It's like if the Church of Snoopy had the $50 billion net worth the Catholic Church has....it's not about money, it would just be plain WRONG....like unproven religions are.

    I do believe that a better system is possible, however.

    Do you think that killing gays is immoral, or is Christianity wrong...which is it? (It's not a tough question.)
     
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    In direct answer to your question... It is immoral to kill anyone... even according to the Christian teachings. You are right, it is not a tough question.

    Now that I have answered your question, it is your turn to answer my questions.

    What "invisible friend in the sky" have you seen?
    What proof do you have that "the magic, shy, invisible, immoral friend in the sky is not real"?
    What religions are "unproven"?

    What are the dynamics of the 'better system' that you believe are possible?
     
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    obviously the point i was making was meant for an adult with a semblance of intelligence
    epic fail on your part
     
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    another person that can't read and wants the complete opposite of my point.

    i told you stop posting of me...
     
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    people you ///no we have to stop posting of this person

    shun him please...
     
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    Key word is CREATED, God created Adam from dust with all the features of man that include the belly button and sex organs same with Eve, she was ccreated from the flesh of Adam and moulded by God with all the features of a woman just like an artist sculpture would create a figurine of a man and woman with belly bottom. The perfectness of God was clearly demonstrated as to how He created man and woman to be self sufficient to survive and procreate with out God's ever having to create each and every individual that is why Adam and Eve is our first parents.
     
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    i know we all actually talked to this troll...but this is the final straw...

    the pf atheist does not care for anything except trolling...

    total non thinking trolls...

    please stop posting off these trolls
     
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    Clearly, the artists who depicted biblical events lacked your incredible eye for detail. Their depictions are completely unrelated to the authenticity or lack thereof of the bible and of Christianity.
     
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    Do you think they have navels or not?
     
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    But god killed all innocent babies in his horrific flood. He's immoral...not worth worshipping.
    The only invisible friend in the sky ("god") is in the minds of the deluded.
    He's not real because NOT ONE person could prove to a jury-level of proof that he even EXISTS. Pathetic.
    ALL religions are unproven because a chimp can prove he exists but this "god" invention can't prove he exists. Pathetic.

    A better system, such as modern Secular Humanism deals with reality, not adult fairy tales.
     
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    So what are fossils? I say dino fossils are millions of years old (which means you've fallen for the biggest con - religion - of all time). What does your belief system say they are?
     

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