18 random mass shootings in the 1980s, 54 in the 1990s, and 87 in the 2000s.

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  1. dadoalex

    dadoalex Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Want to place the blame?

    In 1984 the NRA endorsed its first political candidate.
    In 1994 the NRA started targeting candidates that weren't "gunny" enough.
    By the year 2000 the NRA had become a cesspool of right wing extremism
    By the year 2008 the NRA had become solely a fund raising political organization.

    Yes. The NRA. As the NRA has drifted into extremism using fear and hate mongering to promote an agenda the ability to legislate reasonable restrictions on the type of weapons that make these events more deadly has nearly disappeared.

    The NRA, its leadership, and its followers are as responsible for these events just as if they had pulled the trigger themselves.
     
  2. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Congrats on the dumbest post I've seen on PF in a long time. Somehow I knew it would come from you.

    Supporting the right of people to own firearms does not make them responsible for murder. Put the bong down.
     
  3. LibertyRansom

    LibertyRansom New Member

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    They don't happen in the entire continent of Europe as much as it happens here. And since it's almost only white people who commit this particular crime, your racial argument is bunk too.
    And if your worried about population lets go with a mass-shooting per 100K people. Still higher in the U.S. no matter how you do the math.

    And how bout that socialist moral decay argument? Doesn't Europe lean more socialist? Why are we worse again?
     
  4. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Who cares about "mass-shootings"? Are they somehow worse than the day-to-day violence that occurs? Are people more dead if they are killed in a mass shooting than if they are killed in a drive-by shooting?

    A few hundred people are killed every year because of these guns. Over 7,000 people are killed every year because of handguns. If you guys were really concerned about saving lives, you'd focus on handguns. Rifles are rarely used to kill people.

    Just admit this is 100% a political agenda. You really don't care about people getting killed.
     
  5. Brewskier

    Brewskier Well-Known Member

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    Moral decay takes on other forms. Eurosocialists are no longer having children, or having 1 per couple. Most places in Europe have a birth rate such that the native population of people in that country will be cut in half every 35 years. This will require them to import 3rd worlders to work and keep their welfare system going. What better gauge of a culture is there than when they unanimously decide that buying things is more important that continuing their bloodlines?
     
  6. LibertyRansom

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    I'm just trying to stay on point. Glock reminded me in the last post that we were talking about mass-shootings so I stayed on that. You wanna talk about banning hand guns I'm all about it.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    You are going back and forth between gun crime and schools shootings. We have a large minority population and a lot of urban gun crime. So does London.

    Again, remove the minorities from the US population stats and we are not much worse than Europe.
     
  8. Brewskier

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    I'm sure you're "all about" anything that strips people of their liberty, Mr. "Liberty". Unless it's gay sex or abortion, of course.
     
  9. DonGlock26

    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    You are going back and forth between gun crime and schools shootings. We have a large minority population and a lot of urban gun crime. So does London.

    Again, remove the minorities from the US population stats and we are not much worse than Europe.
     
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    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Adam Lanza is solely responsible for his actions.

    I realize Leftist idiots have a problem with this concept, but I'll repeat it again for your benefit:

    Personal responsibility - learn it, live it, love it.
     
  11. Brewskier

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    They're still laboring under the delusion that more gun laws are going to stop 20 year olds from taking their parents guns. Too bad this occurred in one of the strictest gun control areas in the country. That has to be inconvenient for their narrative.
     
  12. LibertyRansom

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    To bad the assault rifles and hand guns weren't secured before those 20 kids were stripped of their lives. Like I said before, maybe you could console the families by going to them and reassuring them that their sacrifice they've given and your gratitude for it are eternal.
     
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    micfranklin Banned

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    Not sure if trolling or completely unaware.
     
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    Didn't some loon stab 20 kids in a Chinese school to death that same day? No gun, no problem for him.
     
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    snakestretcher Banned

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    Yeah Don, clever work. Texas isn't a country, Australia is; so your comparison is meaningless. Now, compare the per capita mass-slayings (that means per head of population Don), in the USA with Australia.
     
  16. Brewskier

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    People are killed every day. Your bandwagon faux outrage is more transparent than you think. The left doesn't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about these kids outside of the potential political benefit they offer.

    Maybe you can reassure them that using their dead children to further your political ambition is well worth it.
     
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    I doubt MSNBC covered that story. Cut him a little slack.
     
  18. LibertyRansom

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    None of those children were killed. None.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The indisputable fact that the Left and democrats are literally on a witch hunt
    to destroy any vestige of sanity regarding guns and gun owners is proof positive
    how the left has hijacked this Country.
    Is anyone here doubting that Lefties,and Democrats are literally putting a
    political gun to the heads of any gun owners/advocates as veiled threats
    towards a concerted agenda.
    Unprecented levels of Stalinistic method to accomplish an Agenda.
    This is another example of a Birther meme.It is how Obama gets away with
    things.Anyone challenging or critical of any Obama policy or statements will be
    Bither'd.It is an Alinsky tactic.To smear and demonize anyone daring to challenge
    the narcissistic pleading of Obama and his Merry Men.
    Virtually unheard of up till now in this Country's vast history.


    " It will itself be ashamed of it's imaginings,but yet it will
    recall it all, it wil go over and over every detail, it will invent unheard of things
    against itself,pretending that those things might happen,and will forgive nothing. "
    -- Notes From the Underground by Fyodor Dostoyevsky
     
  20. micfranklin

    micfranklin Banned

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    Okay so no one died there, why does that take away from 23 kids getting stabbed in a school in the first place?
     
  21. LibertyRansom

    LibertyRansom New Member

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    When your goal is to kill 20 people in a room, what would be the better tool to do it?

    I never said sending your kid to school to find out they got stabbed is a good thing. But its better than waiting and watching while the survivors are walked out of the school to find out yours and 19 others were shot to death.
     
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    MnBillyBoy New Member

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    Yes ..we slaughter thousands of defenseless babies every year using abortions..
    We elect presidents without carrying any state without a verifiable voter ID law...
    We sent guns to Mexico...killing thousands of innocents..
    We import illegals for political gain in violation of our own laws..

    In other words, WE JUST SUCK.
     
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    micfranklin Banned

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    The better tool is whatever's most convenient. If he really was gonna kill everyone, he could just set the building on fire.
     
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    micfranklin Banned

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    The better tool is whatever's most convenient. If he really was gonna kill everyone, he could just set the building on fire.
     
  25. Brewskier

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    I'm sure it's a nice warm thought to think of a society free from guns, but it's not going to happen. Just like prohibiting alcohol didn't stop drinking, banning guns is not going to stop people from possessing them. All you are going to accomplish is penalizing responsible gun owners, which is your real goal. Criminals will always have them. Why are you trying to empower them?
     

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