237 Israeli soldiers committed suicide in ten years

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  1. moon

    moon Well-Known Member

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    In fact, the British army didn't drop below a quarter of a million until 1995 and it was 326,000 in 1984 as I accurately quoted. Flat tyre for the monocycle. Good honk on the nose might fix it. :mrgreen:

    That's Regulars, of course- for the purposes of perhaps forestalling any more embarrassed simpering .

    EDIT;
    BORAT;
    :mrgreen:
     
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  3. moon

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    Ooooooh look- a linkie ! :mrgreen: A bit like the Dutch boy sticking his finger in the dyke. Ah, what a shame that the sacrificail linkie doesn't support your claim, eh ? :mrgreen:


    Aw, OK then folks, one more time by popular request;

    BORAT;
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    For the stupid and the Limeys ;), here are the numbers
    British Army 1984 - 223,000
    British Army 2006 - 150,000
    Average for 22 years - 186,500

    the IDF - 176,500

    237 Israeli soliders commit suicide in 10 years, 687 UK military personnel commit suicide in 22 years.

    A british soldier has almost 24.6% higher chance of committing suicide than his Israeli counterpart. LOL
     
  5. Marlowe

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    Gilos , that's how you see it, but Clearly those directly involved cant see it your way anymore than you can see their's. I 'd suggestr you try a bit of empathy - and being thankful that you've not been subjested to the same degrees of -- whatever drove those to kill themselves.

    btw - having more about the views of Refuseniks - I wouldnt think they're all "fat drunk bums" as you choose to describe yr neighbour , who you apparently have no respect for .

    That doesnt surprise me at all , , as you being a Jew, you wouldnt have been taught to care about your neighbours. Caring for one's neighbours is apparently more according top Jesus - who Jews. in general loathe + detest.

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    Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’8 This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’0 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”

    Matthew 22:39 ...



    Gilos , I dont blame you for tyou way of thinking, I'm not a practicing christian , but its the way I've been raised , caring about ones neighbours.


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  7. Borat

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    I provided the link 10 times in this thread, anyway, here it is
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army#Personnel


    The comparison is not stupid, this thread is stupid, this thread was started by British islamonazis to make a case out of the suicide rate in the Israeli army, when the suicide rate in the British army is actually 25% higher as my numbers have proven.
     
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    On the "not knowing" part, I may not know what made them do it, you and others here sure dont know either, I'd leave it at that.

    On my neighbor and yet another launch at the Jews....

    I read your posts for several years now, you are not that loving person you claim above to be, even if you gallop UK streets handing non- Jews flowers and shower them with love your hate to Jews is enough to say you have alooooot of hate to others and im sure if you had a bum neighbor that lives above your head with no respect to law or other ppl rights you would 'nt like him so much either.
     
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    Somewhat at odds with reality- but then all that peddling is demanding of puff :mrgreen:
    Update ;

    BORAT;
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    I take what you say , the question remains , have you in anyway understood what I'v already said ?

    Sorry, I cant help how you choose to interpret/understand anything I've previously said, Its words , often easily misunderstood . I dont think of my feelings/'emotions as hatred, to any group of people, but do feel strongly against their crimes/imjuctices perpetrated/carried out in there're name and with their support, especially when it affects my friends.
    No - I certainy do not "hate " ALL JEWS " - Just the swines .

    FYI there's an Israeli born lady living a block away from me - regularly asking me for a signature to some petition - she works with Amnesty International, another Israeii born Jew, is a local baker- as AFAI can tell , he's an Anti-Zionist therefore again IMO - a Righteous Jew. there's also a few others that I've met thru the year , but I hope you'll understand me when I say say there are many , especially those I've been unfortunate to meet in Israel, who are NOT the most likable of
    god's creatures


    ... tata.
     
  11. Gilos

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    Oh please....not that "many of my closest friends are Jews" argument.....


    Why do you generelize Jews the way you do? why do you say to me you are not supprised that I dont respect fellow men since I am a Jew..., ofc the Bilble was the first to state the opposite long before Christianity or Islam, but why do you generlize ? it is obviously a matter of upbringing and that's subjective to each person, you dont know anything about Israelis, hardly a thing about jews and thats why you fear and generlize, and that where the hate comes from, and make no mistake - you can call it what you like but you hate on a professional level.

    Now i'm signing off, new year is coming.
     
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    Gilos , inspite of what I've tried to tell you, if you still cjhoose to think that I hate all Jews , then so be it. There's nothing more I can say to you.

    Apart from wishing you a Happy New Year and hope you + your countrymen learn to respect your non-Jewish neighbours legitimate rights .

    Shalom .
     
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    I would not even break sweat trying to persuade them, because, it is either some sort of morbid delusion, that manifests, both an individual or state level, or it is something they use, as a get out.

    It maybe worked 15yrs ago, or ten even.

    Not anymore.

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    Two a month, well, that seems high to me.

    I would guess the familes of the guys that took their lives may agree with me, and not you.

    Maybe you should listen to the Israeli who admitted war crimes. Anyone can HEAR the sincerity, and see it, in his eyes.

    Israel have not just tried to dehumanise those in Gaza, they have tried to make their own society harsh and inhumane.

    Deny it if you wish, but there will be Jews out there, knowing this is true.
     
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    One a year is too high. Too bad it's three a month in the UK despite the fact that the British army is smaller. But what do you care about stupid british boys who volunteer to serve and then kill themselves.
     
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    It hasn't though.

    Fact 1) 237 Israeli soldiers committed suicide in ten years.

    Fact 2) This is more than by the hand of perceived enemies

    Fact 3) That is a weird anamoly, to anyone.
     
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    Fact #4: 687 British military personnel committed suicide in 22 years despite the fact that the british army is about the size of the IDF. A british soldier has a 25% higher chance to kill himself than his IDF counterpart.<<<Mod Edit: Name calling>>>
     
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    Your 'facts' were addressed by others, I seem to recall..
     
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    1. Yes, it seems nearly every military is plagued by per capital suicide rates higher than their regular populations. e.g. US army 2011 suicides exceeded the number of deaths in afghanistan by a substantial margin.

    2. Yes, it is a testament to the ineffectiveness of their enemies to kill their enemies. Or maybe they aren't really trying.

    3. As you can see it isn't an anomoly, its an odd fact of modern warfare.
     
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    You could be on to something...
     
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    With all my due respect to Jonsa, tens of thousands of rockets fired into Israel from Gaza represents quite a lot of trying :)
     
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    Suicides Outpacing War Deaths for (US) Troops
    By TIMOTHY WILLIAMS
    Published: June 8, 2012

    The suicide rate among the nation’s active-duty military personnel has spiked this year, eclipsing the number of troops dying in battle and on pace to set a record annual high since the start of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan more than a decade ago, the Pentagon said Friday.
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    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/09/us/suicides-eclipse-war-deaths-for-us-troops.html?_r=0

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    Yes the military is not a place conducive to a long and healthy life, physically or mentally due to the obvious pressures it puts on the psyche. Obviously popagandists try to make it seem as if it were a jooo-ish issue. Nothing new there.

    Find a study that people die at all and they'll be claiming the jews did it.
     
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    On the contrary, your arithmetic became the object of hilarity. Unfortunately, the wriggling which followed was pathetic. Still, we can review your sums again. And again . :mrgreen: Where would you like to start ? With your assumption that the strength of the British army hasn't changed since 1984 ? :mrgreen:
     
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    Too bad I made no such assumption, in fact I made no assumptions whatsoever. I used wildly publicized factual data on the size of the British military. See the link below. The army was not very big in 1984 and it was dwindling every year after that. Based on these numbers the chances of a British soldier to kill himself are 25% higher than for his IDF counterpart.

    See the numbers and weep, loser LOL
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Army#Personnel
     

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