Why do you need more than 10 rounds for self defense??? (WARNING: Graphic Video)

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  1. DentalFloss

    DentalFloss Well-Known Member

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    This will show you why. Firearms don't work in the real world they way they do in the movies and on TV. One shot doesn't drive the body back 50 yards, and instantly incapacitate the person shot.

    The victim (and I use the word loosely, it was ruled a righteous shoot, and kinda looked like suicide by cop to me), after being shot 13 times, was STILL trying to get his weapon.

    WARNING: Graphic. If you choose to watch this, you're going to see a real human being die. You've been warned.

    [video=youtube;mCmzJzTQv6Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=mCmzJzTQv6Q[/video]
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Attorney John Burris released a video showing the shooting of Ernest Duenez Jr. by Manteca PD Officer John Moody on December 12, a day after the San Joaquin District Attorney's Office cleared Moody of any wrongdoing in the June 2011 incident.

    According to the District Attorney's report, Duenez, who was being sought for a parole violation and an earlier domestic disturbance call, brandished a knife as he exited a truck despite orders not to move.
    Moody fired 13 rounds in 4.2 seconds, striking Duenez several times.
    Duenez's wife can be seen coming out of the house and screaming after her husband is shot.

    District Attorney's Full Report ~ http://www.scribd.com/doc/116792988/Edward-Duenez-Jr-DA-Report

    Burris believes that Duenez, who was caught in the truck's seatbelt, was not holding any weapons or moving aggressively.
    He has asked the U.S. Justice Department to look into the case and to file murder charges against Moody.
     
  3. Zxereus

    Zxereus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The police seem to completely miss the curtain pulled open in the backgroiund. Could have been someone in the house that could have picked them off had they wanted to.
     
  4. trucker

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    most likely he was on drugs and if it was meth, he could still of charge the officer, after being shot multiple times unless it was a head shot.
    i my self would of not fired at that time, i thought it was to early. there wasn't enough threat to me at that distance, but it was that call for that officer
     
  5. exotix

    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    What you actually saw was a Zimmerman scene .... as Zimmerheads see it ... righteous kill of an unarmed black man ... I don't think O'Mara will use this one as self-defense as Stand Your Ground case precedence though ...
     
  6. DentalFloss

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    Yes, he was on meth. Autopsy report showed 1.1 mg/L of meth, and 0.21 mg/L of Amphetamine in his system. I'm not familiar with the latter, nor do I know if those levels are low, medium, high, or other.
     
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    That was pretty disturbing to watch.

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    Black man?
     
  8. trucker

    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Handguns are not death rays.
     
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    JohnnyMo Moderator Staff Member Donor

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    And the point of the OP is what?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    That he will get no progressives here to address his point directly?
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you need to have more then 10 rounds in a magazine and not just cops also the public
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    The cop executed an unarmed guy at close range with a handgun ... so we got an idea just how fast Lanza executed Kindergartners with a made for civilian-use military assault rifle ...
     
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    That's the meat of the hysteria. "white" Hispanic shoots Obama's would be son.
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    The OP seems to be saying that handguns aren't going to blow you through a plate glass window like on TV.
     
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    and being stab with a knife and slow tortured death is ok with you? or how about holding them in that school room throwing gasoline around them and burning them alive etc, the speed of the deaths is actually more human with a gun.
     
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    OP - why do people need more than 10 bullets? Um, HELLO, to shoot at the tank/fighter jet/ armored personnel carrier when they decide to over throw the tyrannical government? Well, yeah, it won't do any good anyway. They can shoot 1000 bullets at the tank....but, it makes them feel better in the meantime.
     
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    The point is ... Lanza would have blown any school-cops head-off and from a distance before gaining entry, then executed everyone in sight all within any response time ... that's why mass-murderers now choose assault rifles ... no matter how many flatfoots you put out there as fresh meat ..
     
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    Where is the link to support your statement?

    All I have read was that there were TRACES of THC in Trayvon's blood, extremely minimal amounts and obviously we all know that cannabis does NOT increase aggressive behavior in people. .on the contrary!

    In the other hand, Zimmerman didn't get a blood test, but he recognized being on psychotropic medications that DO affect behavior which are KNOWN to render a person paranoid and more aggressive. . . I wonder if that is the reason Zimmerman decline going to the emergency room that night. . .since he would very probably have been given blood tests!
     
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    13 shots to kill one parolee. What if a civilian with a Democrat-approved 10 round magazine is robbed by two parolees?

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    I see. Would a "flatfoot" be immune to a .30-06 or 12ga shotgun?
     
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    Do you happen to have any sources of incidents to where the killing was done at a range that could not otherwise be accomplished by a handgun?
     
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    DonGlock26 New Member Past Donor

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    I see. Would a "flatfoot" be immune to a .30-06 or 12ga shotgun?
     
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    before you shoot that gun, i would [​IMG]throw a malakoff cocktail at it [​IMG], then as the solders exit the tank, then you use the extended magazines rifle on them..
     
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    At this point, I wonder >>> what is your point in posting in this forum ? (To ask such a stupid question)
     
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    exotix New Member Past Donor

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    Who can forget Brenda Ann Spencer ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brenda_Ann_Spencer

    Brenda Ann Spencer (born April 3, 1962) is an American convicted murderer who, at the age of 16, carried out a shooting spree from her home in San Diego, California, on January 29, 1979.

    Born in San Diego, Spencer purportedly took an early liking to guns and also to stories that contained violence.
    For Christmas in 1978, her father, Wallace Spencer, gave her a Ruger 10/22 semi-automatic .22 caliber rifle with a telescopic sight and 500 rounds of ammunition.

    Before her parole board in 1999, she said: "I asked for a radio and he bought me a gun."
    To the question as to why he might have done that, she answered: "I felt like he wanted me to kill myself."

    During the shooting spree, she killed two people and injured nine others - eight children and a police officer - at Cleveland Elementary School, which was located across the street from her home at 6365 Lake Atlin Avenue.

    Spencer showed no remorse for her crime, and her full explanation for her actions was "I don't like Mondays; this livens up the day."


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