Why is It SO COLD in the US Southwest? Did All the CO2 Just Go Away?

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  1. Grokmaster

    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Cold records being broken throughout the region...must be that pesky "climate change", because trying to attribute it to "global warming" doesn't work anymore:
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    Why Is It So Cold in the Southwest?

    Known for hot temperatures, Southern California and the rest of the Southwest United States are undergoing a cold snap that has set records in many areas throughout the region.

    Los Angeles set a record daily low of 34 degrees Fahrenheit (1 degree Celsius) this morning (Jan. 14), the coldest it's been in 22 years, according to the National Weather Service. Water pipes also froze and busted in Las Vegas, where the mercury dropped to nearly 17 F (minus 8 C), according to news reports.




    http://news.yahoo.com/why-cold-southwest-231152094.html
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    Can't wait for the unavoidable Warmist Backlash to the thread.

    I'm especially looking forward to the first Warmist Numbskull trying to pretend that the asinine Hollywoood flufflick, "The Day After Tomorrow", was representative of actual science, thus pretending to explain the RECORD COLD in the SW.

    Remember when Evil Human Produced CO2 was causing INEXORABLE WARMING?

    When that didn't pan out in the early 2000's to at least 2008, the "message changed", to ANYTHING was "proof of 'global warming', now called 'climate change' ".

    Hilariously childish in its idiocy, even more funny is that the Warmist deluded manage to keep a straight face while postulating the ridiculous nonsense.

    Anyway..always glad to stir the pot....:smile:

    (PS-Still waiting for the results of the chemo/thermo/baro test , utilizing SCIENTIFIC METHOD, proving the thermal properties of less than 400 PPM (.0004) atmospheric concentrations of CO2. Of course, I won't hold my breath. Please post the lab notes,and the provable, repeatable results.) :bored:
     
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    trucker Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    current get stream ripping down the west coast from alaska north pole
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    toddwv Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This is why Republicans shouldn't do "science" and why scientists avoid the Republican Party like a plague.
     
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    Now that's hilarious... and very true!
     
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    Mergun New Member

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    Did you know that in some places in the world the sun can only be seen at certain times? Where does it go?!
     
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    I simply can't appreciate your faith in those whose very careers depend on Global Warming. The "Global Warming " fear insures they are paid top dollar for their research due to the sense of urgency. But, who said the climate wasn't changing? The climate has changed untold numbers of time in the last 4 Billion years. It's the reason that's in dispute.

    We know through indisputable fact that there were Herbivore Dinosaurs and the vegetation to support them between 400 to 1200 miles from the North Pole about 60 Million years ago. If you can't prove the latest warm period it's man made, then you can't rule out that the same process isn't happening again.

    Scientists avoid the Republican Party like a plague because pay day's over.
     
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    Grokmaster Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Oh, no doubt. I mean, look at the way you came right out with the simple chemical test I proposed, which, if such miniscule amounts of CO2 did what the Warmists claim, would prove every Warmist claim scientifically valid...oh wait a minute....

    "Science" to conservatives= establishing SCIENTIFIC PROOF, through SCIENTIFIC METHOD

    "Science" to leftninnies= whatever they are spoonfed at leftninny pseudo-science websites, such as the complete nonsense that "science can't prove anything", from an OP-ED, by a "paleo-psychologist. ( A great example of a "Leftninny 'science disicpline' " there, huh?)

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    Yeah, you guys really nailed that chemical test I requested....
     
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    Global warming = the entire planet warming - FACT................. to the simple minded fool without understanding of the engines which power our planet.


    Please please, stop making yourself look so simple minded.
     
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    We're not simple minded. I just don't see the massive rise in global surface temps. Everything I see is a localized phenemona that could easily be explained away by coincidence. That is the problem.

    My problem is NOT with the science, but the HYSTERIA SURROUNDING THE SCIENCE.

    Humanity has no reason to be absolutely bonkers hysterical, none at all. I mean the bulletin of atomic scientists is acting like the world is going to end tomorrow if we don't immediately start walking to work and living below 65 degrees on the thermostat.

    Humanity has no reason to change its behavior and most of us aren't going to, those that do change their behavior will cripple their societies and become non-competitive.
     
  10. Colonel K

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    The Northern hemisphere is going through a chilly patch called "Winter" right now, while the warmth has its summer holiday down under in Australia, where there are currently wildfires and daily temperatures of 120 degrees F. Not to worry, the heat will be back after something called "Spring".
     
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    Eliminate third world populations to prevent more environmental damage. Their high birth rates
    "require outside adjustments."
     
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    No. What actually happened is that the media coined the phrase "global warming", then scientists pointed out that this is misleading, what's actually happening is "climate change". Subsequently, the idiots who who refuse to even contemplate that mankinds industry could impact our environemnt (coincidentally backed by people in the heavy polution industry, who do not want to spend money cleaning up their factories), mock anyone using the term "climate change", insisting that BS examples of individual places cooling, or having snow, is evidence that "global warming" is not happening.

    It's simplistic, childish and stupid.

    You are gambling with your children and their childrens lives.

    You are preventing intelligent debate.

    This is what's happening.
     
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    Both terms climate change and global warming have been around for a while, the radical left has been shying away from using the term global warming anymore and find climate change to be better accepted. The entire theory is based on changing minds and consequently behavior, global warming isn't as affective in the information warfare campaign taking place as climate change.

    So you are advocating science to be political, and you wonder why there is skepticism beyond the emailgate scandal.

    Wrong. There is a vested financial motive pushing further study, global warming has connotations of doom, gloom, and catastrophe associated with it. Climate change sounds much more manageable and less threatening, it's easier to be a beggar with hand out when studying something that is manageable. 74% believe in climate change while 68% believe in global warming.

    I don't think there is much polarization that we are seeing differences in temperatures, maybe even a slight avg temp increase. But by no means do I think it is being caused by aerosol hairspray or cow flatulence and the "scientific community" is far from agreement as well.
     
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    Rubbish! What do you think scientists do, sit around on welfare waiting for the next commission to arrive? From what I understand scientists are usually normally employed, and draw a salary from whichever institution employs them. Of course I could be wrong, and you could be right-absurd as that may seem.

    Oh, and by the way, 'Trucker' posted a diagram illustrating the reason for the unseasonally cold weather. It's due to the jetstream being far further south than usual.
    This is why science and conservatives don't mix.
     
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    Painting anyone who reads that "science" stuff and "radical left" is utterly stupid and incredibly disingenuous. Therefore I didn't read any more of your post.

    Either man up and stop using BS words to paint others as something they are not, or don't bother posting.
     
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    Hypocrisy at its best, last summer you and your AGW buttbuddies were raving that the heat wave in the midwest was PROOF that global warming was real and man was the cause of it. But I guess that only applies to warm periods and not to cold periods.

    you leftist warmers make me :smile:
     
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    Grok, the Left's propaganda division saw this coming and changed the name of the problem from global warming to climate change. Now, any weather activity can be blamed on the enemies of communism, whoops, I mean secular humanist socialism.
     
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    I understand, you read something you didn't like to hear got all butthurt and use it as a defense mechanism to avoid addressing all the other points. So long as the toddwv's of the world exist they will always make the discussion political and polarizing............ just as those who depend on tax dollar funding to study it will and have been doing.
     
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    Yes, climate changes on its own. But it's very, very likely that CO2 accelerates the process. Like smoking is very likely to destroy your lungs.
     
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    If you liberals and leftists want to address a real problem that will definitely have a negative impact on the planet and mankind----how about addressing overpopulation?

    There are already too many people on our planet, besides abortion, how do you on the left plan to deal with this real issue?

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    what % of the atmosphere is CO2? if you don't know, please look it up before responding.
     
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    Intelligent debate? There's nothing intelligent in sacrificing the economic propserity of hundreds of millions in a quixotic quest of appeasing the Earth Goddess and changing the weather.

    Most climate change policy suggestions are nothing more than thinly veiled attempts to advance international marxist ideology using climate change and economic diisplacement as a pretext to sieze more global power and advance radical and more authoritarian forms of leftist democracy arolund the world.

    Climate change may be real. But the movement that seeks to "repair it" is as fake as astroturf.
     
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    It doesn't matter how small the percentage is. We know that concentration is rising. We also know what it does. And we, among other life forms, are responsible for producing it. While other life forms can't reflect their actions, humankind can.
     
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    Global Cooling
    Global Warming
    Climate Change

    "Inadvertent climate modification".

    Must not have played well at ministry of propaganda mixers.
     
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    Who was doing this 'raving'? Link?
     
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    The earth could easily support upwards of 12 Billion people (that would require sharing resources and essentially a one world government to do though). Most scientists believe the the population will top out at around 9 billion, and will likely even start to decrease after that point.
     

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