Armed Guards In Every School? What Do You Think Will Happen?

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  1. Phoebe Bump

    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    In a lot of cases, I can agree with 'acceptable' casualties. Not with students or schools. There has to be a place where 6-year olds can go without putting on the kevlar.
     
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    What studies have Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity done that you object to?

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    So then you're for armed guards at every school. If it's good enough for Obama's kids, why wouldn't it be good enough for everyone else's?
     
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    Wow, great question, really ratchets up the fear. I know what, how about we take a look at the potential threat based on historical fact. How many school guards have shot up schools so far, out of how many school guards total?
     
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    Perhaps instead of you spewing out dire predictions on what you think might happen, you should post what actually has happened at the thousands of schools that have had armed guards already there for years.

    Perhaps your hysterical predictions are needed because you have no historical fact to help you out?
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If an undiagnosed sociopath wanted to go on a school rampage would he need to get a job at the school first to do so? And would he need to be given a firearm? Why wouldn't he be capable of procuring his own?
     
  6. Brett Starr

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    99.9999% of children can safely go to school without putting on kevlar. They will not be harmed. There is no way to prevent people from being killed by psychos. Do you support placing armed guards in school buses too? Children are even more vulnerable there.
    The children casualties are not acceptable. They just happen and there is no way to prevent them..
     
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    Ahh, I think there is. There will just never be proof of lives saved.
     
  8. Brett Starr

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    It's impossible. If someone decides to kill, no one can stop him unless he is a moron. Security measures can be overcome. And if they can't, the killer just finds an easier target.

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    I really don't want to arm the 8-year old populace. Do you? And arming all adults will just make 8-year olds easier targets.
     
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    It's a Harvard study which is an admittedly liberal institution so lefties can't claim that it doesn't count because it came from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
     
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    At least the armed guard will be able to shoot back and possibly radio for help.

    As it stands now, this shooter can go in and do what he wants.

    And typically, mass shooters avoid places where people have guns. When was the last time a mass shooter shot up a police station?
     
  12. Brett Starr

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    True. So making schools armed fortresses will just lead mass child killers to go after other targets, like school buses, day cares, churches, playgrounds, arcades, malls, anywhere children congregate. Should we make the entire country an armed camp?
    Knee jerk reactions don't work and give the killers their victory..
     
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    If we have to then yes.

    Right now they are targeting schools so we deal with that, if they go after busses then we deal with that.

    Point is that you don't throw up your hands and say there's nothing you can do so you quit trying. You fight them brick by brick until the end of time if you have to.

    Armed guards in schools is the best way to prevent schools from being shot up. Period.
     
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    Ayuh,.... It's pretty Obvious to me, that the Gun Free School Zones ain't workin'....

    It's Obvious to me that, That's an open invitation to any psychopath intent on killin' livin' things...
     
  15. Brett Starr

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    LOL? Targeting schools? Really? Out of the 50,000 schools how many have been targeted? Can you say knee jerk?
    I have nothing against armed guards in schools if the people want them. They do help keep order, but they ain't stopping a nut job armed to the teeth.

    You do know Columbine had an armed guard, right? How did that work out?
     
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    It is not even necessary to have armed guards. The US thinks in such high energy and extreme measures.

    A simple entry gate and a teenager checking the entrants can be enough to trip an alarm and alert the teachers to evacuate the children if a gunman enters.

    In the US system it is implement chaos unless it is complete order.

    A US pig insulting every entrant with an authoratarian attitude and a full body naked scan and anal search is completely ennecessary. The goal is to protect the children, not molest them.

    A teenager guard has a 500x less chance of being a pervert than a grown adult.

    There is no longer a shared community in the United States. If the US Government cannot find an exploitative corporate solution, the US Government finds no solution.
     
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    Mind you, it was the left that was demanding a response from the NRA on this issue.

    I thought they should have just avoided it. Yes it was a tragedy but they happen in a society. They gave the response that they felt was best and the left tore em up over it.

    Who's idea would best prevent children being shot? Armed guards everywhere or banning assault weapons?

    Be realistic now.
     
  18. Brett Starr

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    Neither will work. By the way I am an independent gun owner of 50 years so don't lump me in with the liberals. 20 kids shot out of 80 million students is a tragedy, but it is about as rare as it can get. Both sides sensationalize to promote their own agenda and both sides suck at it.
     
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    Fair enough my friend.

    Fact of the matter is that the NRA was dragged into this issue by the left and they gave the best solution. Statisics show that this isn't a big issue but the liberals are making it one to gain votes.

    Just facts here.

    Even Obama avoided the whole gun debate his first four years so they really don't consider this a problem. Of course when there is a tragedy like this the sides need to speak out but as we've seen, most of America simply wants to move on.
     
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    The NRA gave the best solution? LOL Really? That's a joke. Spending more money won't help.
     
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    It will save childrens lives.

    I know that liberals don't care about that but we do.
     
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    Why would you choose to attack a target that you know is armed, when their are so many soft targets out there?
     
  23. Brett Starr

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    That's a bunch of BS. Some of you right wingers are as bad as the liberals.

    How many billions of dollars per life saved does it come to?
     
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    You put a price tag on saving your countymen's lives?

    I don't.

    This is our society and no cost is too great to protect them.

    Your nothing but a corporate analist looking at cost benefit scenarios.

    Go away please.
     
  25. Brett Starr

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    LOL. Then spend your own money. Spending a billion dollars to save one kid is beyond stupid. I bet you are one of those whining about the deficit, aren't you? How many students were killed out of the 80 million in school? More kids are killed by their parents than mass murderers.(Three to five children a day are killed by their parents) Put it in perspective please and don't rely on emotions and sensationalism..
    Since 1980, 297 People Have Been Killed in School Shootings An average of less than 10 per year. It is not the problem the press makes it out to be.
     

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