Leftists hate guns more than they care about human life

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  1. SpaceCricket79

    SpaceCricket79 New Member Past Donor

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    Left wing gun control Mod edit,,flounder,,,3 aren't concerned about human life, they're just motivated by a paranoia of guns. This is the reason that the best argument they can come up with for not having armed guards in schools is "well the shooter will just shoot the guards anyway" - so by that logic - you could just argue that there's no reason to have security cameras at a bank, because the robber "will just take the tape out of the camera anyway" - or there's no reason to lock your home when you go out, because a burgler "will just break down the door anyway".

    Guns are to liberals what gay sex is to Baptists. Icky. There's no further thought process by liberals on the issue than that.
     
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    Liberals don't care about human life at birth with their advocacy of over 1 million abortions per year, and they don't care about the life of the elderly as they do support euthanasia, and now they don't care about the safety of all life in the middle stages with their clueless and insecure stand against our gun rights and our dedication to the 2nd Amendment.
     
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    Good one. I'm concerned about human life so your argument has no merit. A collective paranoia. That's something that's never existed except possibly with the Tea Party which is small and pulled together by a common fear.
     
  4. LeonCoDem

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    If you believe we advocate abortions, then it must be that you believe in restricting freedom and personal rights.

    Second Amendment: Where does this amendment state anything about ownership of guns? It doesn't. It says you may hold a gun (bear) and keep a gun (loaned) but nothing about ownership. It was written to give direction for a militia, a well-regulated militia. Do we have a well-regulated militia? No.
     
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    Pro-lifers don't care about life either. As soon as the kid is born they cast it off as responsibility of the parents. Don't want the kid, take proper precautions, eh? Well, that may work in fantasy land but in the real world unwanted kids suffer, not the parents. They'll just continue their way of life and now they have a kid to drag down with them. So no, pro-lifers don't give a (*)(*)(*)(*) about the kid. Not really. They only care about the novelty of saving a life, not the life itself.
     
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    tomfoo13ry Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LMAO! So the 2nd Amendment was meant to protect the right of the people to borrow and hold guns but not to own? You aren't a big fan of history, are you?
     
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    Could also be said that rightists hate drugs more than they care about human life.
     
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    The Supreme Court said long, long ago and has re-re-reaffirmed ever since, that:



    "the right of the people to keep and bear arms is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence."



    So, I don't understand why you, in opposition to SCOTUS, think how you read the 2nd Amendment and the conditions and qualifications you invent from words that the right doesn't depend on, has any importance.

    I already know how this will go, but can you explain your justification?
     
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    Obama is (not) against having armed guards in schools. The following link explains how perhaps "Obama wants too many armed guards in schools."

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...zes-obamas-call-for-more-armed-school-guards/


    And liberals do (not) want to outlaw guns. The following 28 second link shows how Joe Biden feels about guns.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dT-ueNjc_D0

    Too many democrats love and respect guns, for the democrats to ever outlaw them.


    Republicans and democrats are so far separated, that there is not even a republican around, to point out Obama's (possible) overspending above.
     
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    Well Rick, thanks for being civil and asking a civil question (aside from "invent words"). I just spent an hour replying, researching, using language and references to the Constitution, very interesting things only to have this fugging web browser collapse and lose it all. If you see a laptop coming, duck lest you acquire injuries from said laptop. I'll try and get back to you after I toss this at a tree in my backyard.
     
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    Don't be insulting, tomfoo13ry. Europe Rick doesn't have a problem with civility.

    Does the Second state "own" anywhere? Please show me wording that supports what your theory is. I'm just a curious academ
    ic. It wasn't a new word in the English language, but for some reason the authors used "keep" instead. It's just odd to me. Do you "keep" your house or do you own your house? (providing you are not renting). Do you keep your car or own your car? If a cop asks you if you own this vehicle and you reply with, "I keep this vehicle." Will he understand you?
     
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    For what it's worth, the right to keep and bear arms AND the right to use drugs are both derived from the same fundamental right: The right to ones own life.
     
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    Before we get into the whether "bear" refers to the large mammal or not, please do me a quick favor; explain to me your understanding of the 2nd Amendment. What is its purpose? What is it meant to protect? Thank you ever so kindly, in advance.
     
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    Liberals are organized to defeat logic. Those screaming loudest on a particular subject have merely been assigned that area of foolishness for media utilization.
     
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    By that token, the Right has a sexual fetish for guns.
     
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    This entire post is a hasty generalization (logical fallacy).
    One could just as easily assert that all "right wing gun nuts" are just cowards who are so afraid of boogeymen in every shadow that they require penile compensators to feel safe.
     
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    Conservatives don't care about human life after it's born with their advocacy of cutting resources required primarily by struggling families with kids - after doing everything possible to deny people any form of sex ed or contraception in the first place.

    ...and conservatives don't care about the ability of the aged to die with dignity at the time of their choosing, prefering to make them waste away in agony...

    ...and now conservatives don't care about the safety of all live in the middle stages with their clueless and insistance that we protect a status quo that has destroys the "security of a free state" that the 2nd Amendment was intended to provide.

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    What logic? I haven't seen conservatives use any.

    Paranoid conspiracy theories... hallmark of the conservative mind.
     
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    If you're pro-gun control I'd at least encourage you to get down to the range and have a shoot. Even here we have that ability, which many people aren't aware of - they think you can only shoot small caliber guns on rails. Not true. Go shoot a rifle, .357 magnum or shotgun :)

    Especially so over here, where the argument basically starts and ends with "we don't want to be like those stupid Americans". Every single person I've ever taken shooting has become pro-gun liberty. Go figure - first they came for the Jews ;)
     
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    Which brings us to the question, why are you "really thinking about" gun owners' penises?
     
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    Because I think its a very good analogy of gun ownership, do you?
     
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    I didn't realize that your deep cognitive processes concerning the genitalia of male firearms owners was meant to be analogous to anything. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that note.
     
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    Agreed.
     
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    Just watch the news, the gun control advocacy groups are the first to dance of the graves of the departed.

    If people do not die, they no longer have a political agenda. They relish death, they celebrate carnage, it is a requirement to further their statist political agenda.
     
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    That I have a disdain for guns and the barrel strokers that think they have an unlimited right to carry is the very proof that I care about human life.

    This country is one of the most armed (if not THE most armed) of "civilized" countries and has one of the highest rates of gun violence. I shouldn't have to state the obvious, but to gun nuts, one apparently must.
     
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    The best argument is that there's no evidence that more guns in schools would make them any safer.
     
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